[Noisebridge-discuss] Tired of Noisebridge BS, As of Late

Shannon Lee shannon at scatter.com
Thu Feb 16 00:35:47 UTC 2012

we ought to buy 80 of these:  http://is.gd/UCQIsE

then everybody gets a bin; the bins are lockable; and we can move things
around without mixing up everybody's stuff and making a mess.

I have a couple of hundred bucks to put into a "get us some bins" project.


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, miloh <froggytoad at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof at thejof.com> wrote:
> > So, I'm not sure if this came from "Hacker Alley being hacked", but I
> > was at Noisebridge the other night and found some of my belongings in
> > this big wooden crate by the e-waste area... getting ready to be
> > thrown out.
> >
> > This was especially lame, as they were clearly labeled with my name
> > (photo attached).
> >
> >
> >
> > It's becoming increasingly clear to me that Noisebridge has jumped the
> > shark somewhat. The people I find myself most running into there are
> > not into technology, hacking, or really Noisebridge. I've found them
> > to be mostly belligerent, uninterested in rational conversations, and
> > seemingly trying to push various political agendas.
> >
> > I'm getting tired of seeing the Hackerspace that I worked so hard to
> > help build, fall apart, both socially and physically.
> > Like a radically-inclusive cell membrane in heavily-salinated water,
> > new influences are rushing in from all directions and we're beginning
> > to pop. The organelles that were keeping the cell working are being
> > pushed out, and I feel like we're falling apart.
> >
> > I'm tired of fighting entropy all the time, just to keep the status quo.
> > I miss the Noisebridge I came to know and love.
> >
> > The people and the technology are still out there -- we may be moving
> > apart, but I suspect we'll reform as the right conditions form.
> >
> > Cheers
> Thanks for the wakeup call jof,
> Last night, I also found something with my name on it in the elevator
> room. Moved it back to the hacker shelves area.  I get really pissed
> off about this sort of thing, because it's happened before, and
> because when it happens we lose the trust of valuable members. I can't
> stand to see more folks get their trust in the noisebridge community
> abused.  It makes me very ambivalent about the space.
> Does anyone else want to make like an amoeba and split? I feel like it
> sometimes. Last night I think I made up my mind. I came into
> noisebridge on Tuesday evening, apprehensive and on guard after a
> pretty tough circuit hacking Monday. I started to feel better as
> people showed up to check out ZiP.  By the end of the night I was
> thrilled to meet some awesome new folks, attend a meeting with more
> stacks than a wafflehouse, announce the ZiP zine release, play with
> jake's hacky geiger counter made from soviet era surplus GM tubes*,
> and even to EXCHANGE PGP KEYS!
> I think I'll stick it out, pitch in and be a tough little Golgi
> apparatus. For awhile longer.
> Don't let that fool you though. I want to love reoganization of the
> shelves but I dont. I do enjoy changes such as the visibility towards
> the fire escape, new fab area, laserengraver placement, and long table
> and EElab setup. But when I see all the work that went into the
> original build out that got wasted, I get very upset.
> For instance, the outlets and electrical along the south wall are now
> obstructed and largely useless, shelves are not in a good final
> configuration yet they are overflowing with personal effects, and some
> crappy guard posts of particularly crappy design are nailed into the
> floor. Everyone's stuff on the user/member shelves is a grand mess.
> Many bins I bought for new members and hackshelf orga are missing or
> in pieces. The network drops near horsy that I and others put together
> for the plotters were tossed aside and the plotters are currently
> relegated to an unusable area by the kitchen.  The craft and sewing
> area is smaller in its current form and the cutting tables need access
> from all sides to be useful.
> While I realize facilities and maintenance will be an eternal concern
> at noisebridge, I don't think an average user should devote more than
> 10-20% of their available time on those issues.  The rest of time
> should be freed up for the grand hacks.
> I came back from 45 days in Germany* wanting to see some grand
> noisebridge projects get realized, and to see some new
> inter-hackerspace projects get initiated this year. It's time to
> multi-thread the big long term projects and dreams into my time at
> noisebridge,  K GUISE? Anyone else with me?
> As for the my ongoing tithe of 20%+ noisetime, here's my chosen
> contribution to fixing the shelf kerfuffle:
> I'm going back to reboot the member shelves audit, and to get in touch
> with everyone who has shelf space for an inventory and detailed
> descriptions of anything missing.  Of course this project is one of
> the things that Al was working on and sadly met resistance for trying.
>  On that note, I must say I salute all the disenchanted, disappointed
> and disavowed noisebridgers that gave their effort and time to the
> space, only to see it continue in purgatory.  I'm aiming for a better
> place able to host some exciting projects in the coming year.
> -rma
> *Did anyone hear that I was in Germany for 45 days?
> I just got back!*
> If you are reading this now, congrats rebel, you just broke my
> grammatical 20goto10 loop. :-)
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Shannon Lee
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