[Noisebridge-discuss] Upstairs door latch mechanism?

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Fri Feb 10 22:08:39 UTC 2012

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 01:43:37PM -0800, David Estes wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> I believe this was me.

Not sure where in this you were, but I think we ascertained that the guy
wasn't gate-riding...

> I'm not equipped to handle vetting anyone who happens to be standing
> in front of the gate. I also don't feel safe enough in this city to
> directly tell people on the street not to follow me inside, especially
> when they've heard we let "anyone" in.
> What would have been a better response to this situation?

Not sure, though I think that's a really good description of the
challenge faced by everyone, and it's especially interesting because you
highlight what a lot of people say. If there's no clear rule about who
can come in, and who can't, how do you tell someone not to come in,
whether you're looking at a videocamera or looking at them through a

There's a couple of answers to this: one is (and I think that this is
the thinking behind the access control) that we create a shibboleth -- a
number, a little song and dance people have to do, that proxies in some
way to "is Noisebridgey". "You have to know the number to come in", is
something people feel socially more comfortable saying.

The other is that we encourage people to feel more comfortable
identifying and asking people to leave when they, in their opinion,
breach some undefined social point.

I don't really have any good answers here, I'm still just trying to mull
over the problem and work out what people are trying to solve.


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