[Noisebridge-discuss] Tired of Noisebridge BS, As of Late

Mitch Altman maltman23 at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 15 22:13:41 UTC 2012

Shannon, if you, and/or others, who have been part of the ongoing discussions could come tomorrow night, that would be helpful. It's short notice to call this, I know, but I'm leaving town again, and wanna help move things forward while I'm in town. Just trying to help a bit.





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:44:45 -0800
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Tired of Noisebridge BS, As of Late
From: shannon at scatter.com
To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
CC: martinbogo at gmail.com; jof at thejof.com; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net

There was a long and very productive conversation about this last night. There are two basic fronts on which this is being worked:

On the social front, we clarified the existing Noisebridge policy, which is that if someone is being a disruption it's totally reasonable to ask them to leave and not to come back until they've come to a Tuesday meeting to talk to the group about their behavior. We clarified that a series of low-level acts of scumminess is just as actionable as a big drug-induced violent freak-out. There is also now an "85" page on the wiki, where people should be put before they get 86'd so we can keep track of people that others are having problems with.

On the technical front, several efforts are underway to improve the door entry systems; by far the most viable seems to be Kelly's "hot tub" system, which involves revocable PIN codes; when I left the space last night, people were hard at work ginning up a prototype keypad entry scheme.

In general, we are starting to do an OK job of engaging with this problem on a broad and nuanced front, rather than picking one cure-all scheme and implementing it full force...


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

 Who wants to get together on Thursday, 6:30pm, at Borderlands Cafe (870 Valencia, near 19th St), to brainstorm how to tell people who don't belong at NB to get the f out, and keep them out?


> From: martinbogo at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:02:45 -0800
> To: jof at thejof.com
 > CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Tired of Noisebridge BS, As of Late


> All but a few of the things I've stored on my shelf are gone, despite
> best efforts to locate things.
> The most expensive things I had on the shelf (the AVR chips) are missing.
> The things most important to me (my macbook, a couple other items)
> have been returned... but that's beside the point. They should never
> have been disturbed or moved anywhere other than from my old shelf to
 > my new shelf in the first place.
> I agree with jof. Part of being in a Do-ocracy, and a consensus
> driven space, is owning up to when you make a mistake and _being ready
> to undo what you've done_, graciously. Throwing out someone's stuff,
 > misplacing it, and being less than careful with other people's things
> makes it incredibly difficult to hit "undo".
> For my part, I am mixing up a new batch of tasty ETOH products with
 > unusual properties (miracle fruit schnapps, ghost pepper limonata,
> salt and pepper shozu, sugar crystal rum) to replace the bottle of
> hot-as-heck infused vodka. But everyone loses out when a supply of
 > hackable chips like those AVR's goes missing.
> -M
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