[Noisebridge-discuss] Tired of Noisebridge BS, As of Late
jim
jim at well.com
Thu Feb 16 00:49:32 UTC 2012
I'll chip in $200 (and hope to get repaid over time that
or credited toward membership?).
And I recall that you, Shannon, said we'd store the bins
on the shelves, yes? Sounds good to me.
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 16:35 -0800, Shannon Lee wrote:
> we ought to buy 80 of these: http://is.gd/UCQIsE
>
>
> then everybody gets a bin; the bins are lockable; and we can move
> things around without mixing up everybody's stuff and making a mess.
>
>
> I have a couple of hundred bucks to put into a "get us some bins"
> project.
>
>
> --S
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, miloh <froggytoad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff
> <jof at thejof.com> wrote:
> > So, I'm not sure if this came from "Hacker Alley being
> hacked", but I
> > was at Noisebridge the other night and found some of my
> belongings in
> > this big wooden crate by the e-waste area... getting ready
> to be
> > thrown out.
> >
> > This was especially lame, as they were clearly labeled with
> my name
> > (photo attached).
> >
> >
> >
> > It's becoming increasingly clear to me that Noisebridge has
> jumped the
> > shark somewhat. The people I find myself most running into
> there are
> > not into technology, hacking, or really Noisebridge. I've
> found them
> > to be mostly belligerent, uninterested in rational
> conversations, and
> > seemingly trying to push various political agendas.
> >
> > I'm getting tired of seeing the Hackerspace that I worked so
> hard to
> > help build, fall apart, both socially and physically.
> > Like a radically-inclusive cell membrane in
> heavily-salinated water,
> > new influences are rushing in from all directions and we're
> beginning
> > to pop. The organelles that were keeping the cell working
> are being
> > pushed out, and I feel like we're falling apart.
> >
> > I'm tired of fighting entropy all the time, just to keep the
> status quo.
> > I miss the Noisebridge I came to know and love.
> >
> > The people and the technology are still out there -- we may
> be moving
> > apart, but I suspect we'll reform as the right conditions
> form.
> >
> > Cheers
>
>
> Thanks for the wakeup call jof,
>
> Last night, I also found something with my name on it in the
> elevator
> room. Moved it back to the hacker shelves area. I get really
> pissed
> off about this sort of thing, because it's happened before,
> and
> because when it happens we lose the trust of valuable members.
> I can't
> stand to see more folks get their trust in the noisebridge
> community
> abused. It makes me very ambivalent about the space.
>
> Does anyone else want to make like an amoeba and split? I feel
> like it
> sometimes. Last night I think I made up my mind. I came into
> noisebridge on Tuesday evening, apprehensive and on guard
> after a
> pretty tough circuit hacking Monday. I started to feel better
> as
> people showed up to check out ZiP. By the end of the night I
> was
> thrilled to meet some awesome new folks, attend a meeting with
> more
> stacks than a wafflehouse, announce the ZiP zine release, play
> with
> jake's hacky geiger counter made from soviet era surplus GM
> tubes*,
> and even to EXCHANGE PGP KEYS!
>
> I think I'll stick it out, pitch in and be a tough little
> Golgi
> apparatus. For awhile longer.
>
> Don't let that fool you though. I want to love reoganization
> of the
> shelves but I dont. I do enjoy changes such as the visibility
> towards
> the fire escape, new fab area, laserengraver placement, and
> long table
> and EElab setup. But when I see all the work that went into
> the
> original build out that got wasted, I get very upset.
>
> For instance, the outlets and electrical along the south wall
> are now
> obstructed and largely useless, shelves are not in a good
> final
> configuration yet they are overflowing with personal effects,
> and some
> crappy guard posts of particularly crappy design are nailed
> into the
> floor. Everyone's stuff on the user/member shelves is a grand
> mess.
> Many bins I bought for new members and hackshelf orga are
> missing or
> in pieces. The network drops near horsy that I and others put
> together
> for the plotters were tossed aside and the plotters are
> currently
> relegated to an unusable area by the kitchen. The craft and
> sewing
> area is smaller in its current form and the cutting tables
> need access
> from all sides to be useful.
>
> While I realize facilities and maintenance will be an eternal
> concern
> at noisebridge, I don't think an average user should devote
> more than
> 10-20% of their available time on those issues. The rest of
> time
> should be freed up for the grand hacks.
>
> I came back from 45 days in Germany* wanting to see some grand
> noisebridge projects get realized, and to see some new
> inter-hackerspace projects get initiated this year. It's time
> to
> multi-thread the big long term projects and dreams into my
> time at
> noisebridge, K GUISE? Anyone else with me?
>
> As for the my ongoing tithe of 20%+ noisetime, here's my
> chosen
> contribution to fixing the shelf kerfuffle:
>
> I'm going back to reboot the member shelves audit, and to get
> in touch
> with everyone who has shelf space for an inventory and
> detailed
> descriptions of anything missing. Of course this project is
> one of
> the things that Al was working on and sadly met resistance for
> trying.
>
> On that note, I must say I salute all the disenchanted,
> disappointed
> and disavowed noisebridgers that gave their effort and time to
> the
> space, only to see it continue in purgatory. I'm aiming for a
> better
> place able to host some exciting projects in the coming year.
>
> -rma
>
> *Did anyone hear that I was in Germany for 45 days?
>
> I just got back!*
>
> If you are reading this now, congrats rebel, you just broke my
> grammatical 20goto10 loop. :-)
>
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