[Noisebridge-discuss] Why the "85" page is a crock of bullshit.

Will Sargent will.sargent at gmail.com
Tue Feb 21 05:19:47 UTC 2012

TL;DR plz write moar justin / rayc fic

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at gmail.com> wrote:

> What was once originally intended to be a Wiki page dedicated to posting
> names of individuals that were considered to be a personal threat to the
> overall homeostasis of Noisebridge Hackerspace, has turned into the "Page
> Six" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_six#Page_Six> of Noisebridge. I
> had a heated debate with other individuals within the hackerspace about how
> I personally felt the 85 page was actually childish and stupid. I brought
> up the fact that anyone can edit the wiki, therefore some of these people
>  ("Oogles" or whatever terminology we're providing to erroneously
> aggrandize ourselves for being PC enough to avoid using more pejorative
> terms such as "hobos", "squatters", or "Occupants") are people who have
> their name posted on the 85 page happen to be respectable individuals that
> DO actually take an interest in hacking computers or other electronics
> within the space and don't sleep here. In this debate, I openly expressed
> that the last thing I wanted is for these individuals to have a negative
> association/reputation given to their name and/or identity, simply because
> someone could easily feel compelled enough to dislike them and click the
> edit button to add their name to the list of "Oogles", and erroneously
> express information that is subjective and display it as if it were an
> objective fact (which is the only evidence which is valid). Then I asked
> one of the individuals I was debating with how they would react if I went
> on the 85 page and posted something that could reflect negatively upon
> them. Their response was that I should go ahead and do it, and that they
> would gladly defend themselves and "openly tackle any criticism thrown
> their way." I stopped paying attention to what they were saying afterwards
> because I noticed at that point that they were getting all defensive due to
> their body language and the tone of voice of in which they were speaking to
> me. I'm HELLA LMFAOing RIGHT NOW because that individual within a 3 hour
> window had their name added to the "85" list with a negative description
> posted about them from somebody else who wasn't me, and due to the nature
> of the post, it's not surprising to me in the very least that the
> individual who had their name added to the list was totally running around
> today and yesterday talking all kinds of crap. I can totally tell that
> they're taking it personally, saying things like "I'm just going to post
> [person x]'s name to the list and [person y]'s name to the list the minute
> I witness their unexcellent behavior This is BS [blah blah blah blah],"
> Again I stopped listening to what they were saying due to their body
> language and facial expressions.The beauty of all of this is that I didn't
> even have to go and post their name to the list just to prove my overall
> point, someone already went ahead and did it for me, Ahahahahaha Karma!
> Karma! Lulz to the power of 10. I'm going to take it upon myself later to
> add myself to the list, before someone beats me to it, or I dunno feel free
> to start one without me, and I'll add to it later when I have some time to
> spare... But first, I need to troubleshoot some of my computer
> software/hardware problems and learn how to hack my headphones. Yay!
> - Justin Patrick Doerr.
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