[Noisebridge-discuss] Soda Machine

Jared Dunne jareddunne at gmail.com
Wed Feb 22 08:28:20 UTC 2012

IIRC, The only way that you can sell things in the vending machine for $2
is if the buyer uses only coins or one $1 bill plus coins.  There is a
limitation with that machine/bill collector where you can only insert one
bill per purchase.  We were going to sell the sodas for $2 donation each
originally to continue the pricing of the original honor system in the
fridge, but had to go with $1/each since needing to have $2 in coins to get
a coke would be annoying.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Josh Juran <jjuran at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Jeff Tchang wrote:
> > Is it still working? Does it need to be stocked?
> Early Sunday morning, I emptied and unplugged the soda machine, after
> consulting with three other Noisebridgers.
> Chris was opposed to selling sugared water (which as a side note I
> find amusing because it reminds me of Steve Jobs), and stated a
> preference for offering healthier fare like (plain) water and
> something else I've forgotten already (probably juice).  He also
> waxed a little dramatic (or at least melodramatic), ranting slightly
> about poisoning members of the community.
> Lief rated the vending machine Off-Topic, since Noisebridge is not in
> the business of selling soft drinks, although providing drinks on a
> donation basis (as we've done with kombucha) is acceptable.  Lief
> also questioned the financial benefits of running the machine.  On
> January 16, Rob, Evan, and I spent $59 on 148 cans of soda, expecting
> a profit of $89.  Lief suggests that it costs about $100 per month in
> electricity to run the vending machine.  Even if we refill the
> machine promptly and take advantage of sale prices, we're more or
> less breaking even.
> That's assuming, of course, that money doesn't go missing from the
> machine.
> On Feb 19, I counted the money in the machine and there was a
> shortfall of about $90.[1]  Rob reports that about a week ago, he
> noticed the vending machine key in the right area but the wrong spot,
> and Amber informed me on Thursday that she was aware that someone had
> taken money from the machine.  After accounting for unsold cans and
> purchases in quarters, that leaves 120 cans bought with dollar
> bills.  If $90 is missing, then the theft occurred about 3/4 of the
> way through the time period, which is consistent with the timing of
> Rob's observation.
> I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that the money was stolen
> by one of the undesirables recently in the space (and even more
> recently out of the space, thanks to the Rooster Brigade).  In this
> scenario, the perp observed someone close the vending machine, walk
> into a small room, and immediately leave again -- thus revealing the
> location of the key.  Lief offered the theory that perhaps someone
> hacked his/her way in without a key, and asserted that anyone who
> successfully steals money from a hackerspace is by definition a
> hacker and that such actions should be applauded.  I stated that
> Noisebridge is not DefCon and accused Lief of trolling.
> Despite taking exception with Chris' and Lief's delivery, I agree
> with their basic positions and (some of) their supporting reasons.
> Rob, originally in favor of restocking the machine, also agreed with
> taking the machine out of service.  I moved the five remaining cans
> (after consuming the last Sierra Mist) to the refrigerator, unplugged
> the vending machine, and emptied it of all cash, amounting to $123.
> I will either hand it over to Kelly or deposit it into Noisebridge's
> bank account.
> I'll be at the Tuesday meeting, in case anybody wants to discuss
> this.  I for one would be in favor of stocking Hansen's canned
> smoothies.  Get them shipped from Amazon for $1/can, ask for a
> donation of $2.
> Josh
> P.S.:  If you want to talk about "poisoning" people or equate
> stealing with hacking, please add a "[drama]" tag.
> [1] Amounts are not exact because the machine keeps some coins
> slotted in the change dispenser, and these weren't counted on Jan 16.
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