[Noisebridge-discuss] Reorganization at noisebridge

[Elijah Post]

Well hopefully everything will end positively. It's unfortunate that
communication wasn't more clear.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Gian Pablo Villamil
<gian.pablo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well, Miloh didn't hear about it, I didn't hear about it, and we're
> pretty well plugged in. I don't recall seeing it in any of the meeting
> notes, and I do read all of them. Seriously, if you're going to be
> moving people's stuff, you need at least a couple of rounds of "is it
> OK if we do this" type messages to the list.
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Elijah Post <elijahpost at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The idea of the the move is as follows:
> >
> > 1. Create space for a fab lab for the Sewing machines and the
> Replicators to
> > have a good space. (Right now the replicators are in as bad a place as
> > they've ever been.
> >
> > 2. Make it so the member shelves are still protected and difficult for
> > non-members to get to.
> >
> > Many people were talked to about this before the move started. In
> addition I
> > do believe it was brought up at a meeting (although I was not there).
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:43 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    I'm really glad to see this discussion.
> >>
> >>    The downside of blind do-ocracy is lack of coordination.
> >> "Just do it" translates as "do as you please".
> >>    For NB the notion of do-ocracy grew out of disgust with
> >> people talking about stuff and not doing anything.
> >>    If what you're doing doesn't affect anyone else, please
> >> shut up and do it.
> >>    If what you're doing might affect anyone else, please
> >> let them know what you plan to do before you do it.
> >>
> >>    What's the basic point? Unfettered do-ocracy is
> >> indistinguishable from indulgence and inconsiderateness.
> >> To be considerate requires restraint, i.e. discipline,
> >> which is tough for children and childish personages.
> >>    For the NB community's long term success, it's
> >> important that each of us think about possible
> >> consequences of our actions and actually talk to others.
> >>    For that to happen, the community had better include
> >> consideration and talking to each other as one of our
> >> mantras.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 08:46 -0800, Liz Henry wrote:
> >> > Did the people who use the craft/sewing area want this move to happen?
> >> > What was the point here?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Liz
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 1/13/12 7:18 AM, gian.pablo at gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > This sounds like such a bad idea. Who instigated this? If any of my
> >> > > stuff goes missing I am done with Noisebridge.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Jan 12, 2012, at 8:58 PM, gnnrok<gnnrok at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hey,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Visited noisebridge tonight, noticed people were moving the member
> >> > >> shelves over to the sewing area and the sewing area to the member
> >> > >> shelves area.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The space is pretty chaotic at the moment, stuff spread around and
> >> > >> chairs/tables clustered together near the electronics/wood working
> >> > >> areas.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> It seems there might be some use for help with the project, and or
> >> > >> ideas about whether or not it's the right fit.
> >> > >>
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> > --
> > Elijah Louis Spenser Post
> > Mechanic (San Francisco Bike Kitchen)
> > Participant (NoiseRep at Noisebridge)
> >
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*Elijah Louis Spenser Post
Mechanic (San Francisco Bike Kitchen)*
*Participant (NoiseRep at Noisebridge)*
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