[Noisebridge-discuss] Reorganization at noisebridge

Ben M ben at sixgirls.org
Fri Jan 13 23:19:00 UTC 2012


I want to go through and inventory all the bins on what I think are the 
hack shelves (south of the previous sewing area). I want to place the 
inventory somewhere on the wiki along with photographs of the stuff. I am 
going to do this starting next week. If you know how the shelves are 
arranged ping me. I also want to bundle and tie the cables and eliminate 
any rat's nest situations with the variety of cabling in the bins.

Connected to this intention: there is now a 3.5mm M/M cable for the line 
in on pony. Since 3.5mm M/M cables may be at a premium in the space I 
request no one deviate from excellent mode and remove the cables if 
possible or if they do please return the items so others who may need the 
cables can find them and use them as well.

Does anyone have suggestions on how an inventory of the hack shelves could 
be presented so that searching and editing the data would be easy to do 
and an attractive endeavor since the inventory mitigates previous 
challenges of what may or may not be on the hack shelves to be fucked 
with? I will mess w wiki tags and other solutions and figure out a way. 
(Thinking of current zine based on drupal CMS, thanks Tony and Miloh and 
others for having these idea available while others brainstorm)

Ben

On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Shannon Lee wrote:

> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:57:31 -0800
> From: Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
>     <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Reorganization at noisebridge
> 
> Nothing at Noisebridge is "not to be fucked with."
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
>> hey.  i saw some mention of this on the discuss list.  I couldn't do
>> anything about it because i almost got evicted from my house yesterday and
>> i've been packing my stuff all week - i missed circuit hacking monday.
>>
>> I assumed that people realize that member shelves are not to be fucked
>> with.  If people are going to move things, they need to respect that.
>> Apparently it's not happening and I don't want to come today and find out
>> that all my shit has been scattered all over the space.
>>
>> Whats even worse than that is that we might lose good people who enjoy
>> noisebridge but are put off by having their member shelves moved around
>> without the proper process.  It's not cool.  One of the reasons people pay
>> membership dues at noisebridge is so they have a shelf to store their
>> stuff safely.  If they don't get that, they might just move out.
>>
>> Apparently it just "happened" so it can't be undone, and at least two
>> peoples' stuff was mixed up and lost.
>>
>> It seems Elijah Post is the only one on the list advocating for this move,
>> does that mean he is going to take responsibility for all the chaos that
>> will result from it?
>>
>> -jake
>>
>>
>> lilia wrote:
>>
>> I stopped by the space on my way to work today. I found the stuff from
>> my shelf spread across three shelves and some stuff that I didn't
>> recognize on my shelf. Let me know if you or anyone you know is
>> missing big black windows media center laptop or a case of green-pak
>> pipette tips.
>>
>> The member shelves are in two columns, forming a long member hallway
>> between them. This makes one column protected and the other totally
>> exposed to attack (casual observation/thievery) from the workspace
>> side. I'm glad mine ended up on the protected side.
>>
>> I noticed that an ad-hoc wall was formed between the hack shelves and
>> member shelves, so that the member hallway is only accessible from one
>> end. The floor on closed-off side is full of random stuff, further
>> reducing accessibility for members. Who does any of it belong to? Not
>> much way to tell now.
>>
>> If you had stuff on your shelf that you cared about, I highly
>> recommend checking on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Elijah Post <elijahpost at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Well hopefully everything will end positively. It's unfortunate that
>>> communication wasn't more clear.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Gian Pablo Villamil <gian.pablo at
>> gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, Miloh didn't hear about it, I didn't hear about it, and we're
>>>> pretty well plugged in. I don't recall seeing it in any of the meeting
>>>> notes, and I do read all of them. Seriously, if you're going to be
>>>> moving people's stuff, you need at least a couple of rounds of "is it
>>>> OK if we do this" type messages to the list.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Elijah Post <elijahpost at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> The idea of the the move is as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Create space for a fab lab for the Sewing machines and the
>>>>> Replicators to
>>>>> have a good space. (Right now the replicators are in as bad a place
>> as
>>>>> they've ever been.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Make it so the member shelves are still protected and difficult
>> for
>>>>> non-members to get to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people were talked to about this before the move started. In
>>>>> addition I
>>>>> do believe it was brought up at a meeting (although I was not there).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:43 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I'm really glad to see this discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The downside of blind do-ocracy is lack of coordination.
>>>>>> "Just do it" translates as "do as you please".
>>>>>>    For NB the notion of do-ocracy grew out of disgust with
>>>>>> people talking about stuff and not doing anything.
>>>>>>    If what you're doing doesn't affect anyone else, please
>>>>>> shut up and do it.
>>>>>>    If what you're doing might affect anyone else, please
>>>>>> let them know what you plan to do before you do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    What's the basic point? Unfettered do-ocracy is
>>>>>> indistinguishable from indulgence and inconsiderateness.
>>>>>> To be considerate requires restraint, i.e. discipline,
>>>>>> which is tough for children and childish personages.
>>>>>>    For the NB community's long term success, it's
>>>>>> important that each of us think about possible
>>>>>> consequences of our actions and actually talk to others.
>>>>>>    For that to happen, the community had better include
>>>>>> consideration and talking to each other as one of our
>>>>>> mantras.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 08:46 -0800, Liz Henry wrote:
>>>>>>> Did the people who use the craft/sewing area want this move to
>>>>>>> happen?
>>>>>>> What was the point here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Liz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/13/12 7:18 AM, gian.pablo at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> This sounds like such a bad idea. Who instigated this? If any of
>> my
>>>>>>>> stuff goes missing I am done with Noisebridge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2012, at 8:58 PM, gnnrok<gnnrok at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Visited noisebridge tonight, noticed people were moving the
>> member
>>>>>>>>> shelves over to the sewing area and the sewing area to the
>> member
>>>>>>>>> shelves area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The space is pretty chaotic at the moment, stuff spread around
>> and
>>>>>>>>> chairs/tables clustered together near the electronics/wood
>> working
>>>>>>>>> areas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems there might be some use for help with the project, and
>> or
>>>>>>>>> ideas about whether or not it's the right fit.
>>
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