[Noisebridge-discuss] Reorganization at noisebridge

[jim]

    well thank you, and yes, but.... 

    i didn't see anything on the list until the last minute. 
seems to me the list is prominent enough that we should 
expect some advance notice on the list as well as in the 
tuesday night meeting, at least, in the case of ambitions 
that may affect others, specially lots of others. 

    note the danger that there may be some serious-minded 
personage who sees this kind of thing as random disruption 
and for whom there may be a last straw, after which the 
personage leaves the community. 
    the danger is that such a personage may be working on 
something attractive, and the loss of the personage is a 
loss of the attraction and the connections that attraction 
had supported. 

    am i bitching about my lost stuff? 
    no. i'm bitching about lack of awareness of others in 
favor of the excitement of making waves of various sorts. 
not to draw too close a comparison, but that's how lynch 
mobs operate: people get excited then get do-ocratic. 

    Be aware == be considerate, thoughtful, restrained... 

    "discipline is 
not trading away what you want most for what you want now." 



On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 15:05 -0800, Danny O'Brien wrote:
> I encourage everyone to go to the space and work to sort it out among
> themselves. This stuff never gets resolved on the mailing list, and
> usually ends up sounding much worse than it is. It often gets solved
> in 10 minutes if the right people are at the space at the right time.
> 
> Of course, that is not always the case, as both Jim and Rolf are
> noting. Sigh! I'm sorry! We need to invent new communication systems!
> 
> (In terms of communications, I would say that I heard a *lot* of talk
> about doing this before it happened, certainly more than we did over
> the fixing up the classrooms. Few of us ever realise how impossible it
> is to broadcast a plan across the whole of the usership of NB until we
> try.)
> 
> d.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Elijah Post <elijahpost at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I needed to do some crimping and soldering last night. I'd never had an
> > easier time finding what I needed. I think CHM is going to be fine.
> >
> > I've seen productivity go up 10,000% since the move occurred. Most of the
> > people who are opposed wholeheartedly are the people who have spent little
> > or no time in the space since the move took place or are just piggybacking
> > on other people's legit concerns and grievances.
> >
> > I think at this point the criticism is becoming redundant. Stop complaining
> > and stop focusing of the negative.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:45 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> yeah! and where's my storage box labeled j atwell?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 17:21 -0800, Rolf wrote:
> >> > I've popped into NB twice to assess the "progress" and "damage" of the
> >> > big reshuffle
> >> > after it had already happened.
> >> >
> >> > I do understand that some areas like the Maker Bots greatly benefited
> >> > from the new arrangement.  I'm happy for you.
> >> >
> >> > But, my concern is that the space that we used for Circuit Hacking
> >> > Mondays (CHM)
> >> > (a regular event at NB for well over a year)
> >> > has turned into a huge mess.
> >> > A couple of the tables we had (the white ones) are now gone.
> >> > The rest of the tables are piled high in electronic junk.
> >> > Where did this all come from?
> >> > Or, is it people's stuff that got mixed up in the move of the member
> >> > shelves?
> >> > I have no idea.
> >> >
> >> > I honestly don't know how we are going to teach a class in there
> >> > tomorrow evening.
> >> >
> >> > -rolf
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM, lilia <liliakai at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> +1
> >> > >>
> >> > >> i dont want to name names, but I know a certain someone who tends to
> >> > >> compulsively reorganizes things in the space every few months. this
> >> > >> time it's totally unnecessary and super annoying.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:18 AM,  <gian.pablo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > This sounds like such a bad idea. Who instigated this? If any of my
> >> > >> stuff goes missing I am done with Noisebridge.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
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