[Noisebridge-discuss] Massive new NSA spying project projected for 2013
will.sargent at gmail.com
Sat Mar 17 21:32:31 UTC 2012
Best option: either to look like everyone else, or start proactively
keeping a record.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:05 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the link.
> Question: how can my refrigerator give NSA information
> about me? (It's old and maybe PG&E put in a smart meter,
> but our unit is on a sub-panel controlled by the main
> distribution panel--difficult to see how even refrig use
> would properly be reflected.
> People who buy new refrigerators probably have MCUs in
> them, but even so, how can refrig control or energy
> harvesting circuits reflect much info?
> Software is the critical element to the use of data.
> There's a new-ish term, "big data", that refers to the
> analysis of large amounts of unstructured data (such as
> mobile phone, twitter, other social media, email...).
> The software tools for big data are in their infancy.
> Palantir makes a software suite for government and for
> financial analysis (I believe wrt "big data", certainly
> wrt large, complex data sets.
> Hadoop is an open source tool that addresses big data.
> It requires a number of tools, some of which present new,
> head-bending concepts, which will take a lot of years for
> enough data analysts to learn to use effectively.
> The approach to self-defense, I suppose, is to stay
> low and/or be very plain speaking (data-ing), along the
> lines of open source thinking.
> I suspect most of us are fairly safe, given the
> existing (perceived) priorities.
> My primary fear is that of mistakes: "Our software
> says that people who eat both ice cream and pizza in a
> single day and have purchased black pants within the
> last two year period and are not members of the Sierra
> Club and have no specific religious affiliation and
> vote for democratic party politicians and are frequent
> but not regular patrons of health food stores and are
> between 24 and 32 or between 58 and 69 years of age...
> have a 30% likelihood of ... AND YOU'RE ONE OF THEM AND
> YOU WERE AT THE AIRPORT ON FRIDAY AND IN BOSTON THERE
> WAS... AND YOU GOTTA COME WITH US NOW. AND NO, YOU
> CAN'T MAKE A PHONE CALL OR GET YOUR COAT.
> (Later they discover that ice cream and pizza was
> a negative rather than a positivea indicator.)
> On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 13:27 -0700, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote:
>> How to protect oneself? How will you defend your rights when this
>> comes online? Even TOR will no longer be safe with this amount of
>> resources at their disposal :(
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