[Noisebridge-discuss] Potential misuse of the ultimate power, deleting the 85 page

Rubin Abdi rubin at starset.net
Wed Mar 7 09:27:45 UTC 2012

So multiple times it's been asked if a "shit talking" list can be
created to corner out colorful discussion that would cast others
participating within the space in negative light. Each time the general
murmur has been a strong no, pointing out that other spaces have done
such a thing and it's ended in more shit talking and general social
violence. If it's a problem within the space it's a problem that's part
of the community, if it's a community problem (as much as it can get
dramatic) it should be openly discussed here, hiding it just fosters
more hate and back channel scheming.

Currently there's a page on the wiki titled 85 that from my observations
is turning into a general shit talking about others discussion board.


I understand it started out as a list for non-excellent people, but it's
so not that anymore. A wiki really isn't the best of place for a
discussion like this to occur as it really doesn't allow for everyone
else to actively take note in the ugly going-ons in the space.
Additionally folks that are using this page have been hitting some
pretty nasty edit wars trying to rewrite history to drive a point or in

Here's a funny example that happened while I was writing this...


Anyhow, as much as I'm that asshole who says he's staying pretty hands
free here with the space, shit like this is dumb and I would like to see
it stopped. Discussions about these individuals, as much as it's
annoying, should happen on the discussion list. If a generalized list of
opinion labeled unfavorables needs to exist, simply write the person's
name on that page then link to the posts on the mailing list archives
where you discuss why this person is being anything but excellent. If
people bitch about not wanting to see that crap on the list, attach the
[Drama] tag to the subject header.

And yes I'm more than happy to abuse my wiki admin powers here.

Thanks for reading.

rubin at starset.net

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