[Noisebridge-discuss] Please fund my kickstarter to relocate to Ace Monster Toys

Ryan Rix ry at n.rix.si
Sun Mar 11 09:55:29 UTC 2012


HeatSync Labs operates on the same model, and I'd rather have our space the 
way it is than either of the opposite extremes. We have open hours and as long 
as you trust someone in the space with you, you're welcome to sponsor their 
visit any time outside those public hours. 

We've got two people in here that aren't on that 24/7 membership level right 
now (02:45) because they're busy doing awesome stuff. 

The idea that a space cannot be closed to certain types of people is a very 
worrisome thought to me. In my opinion (and experience) you're not catering 
towards certain people if you are not rejecting or redirecting other people. 
No offense, but I think Noisebridge has sort of shown what leaning in that 
direction can cause.

If anyone's ever in Phoenix or Mesa AZ, I encourage you to mail us and come 
visit one of the 'incompatible' spaces.


On Fri 9 March 2012 09:31:48 Martin Bogomolni wrote:
> Yep,  AceMonster follows pretty much the same model as ATX
> Hackerspace, NY Resistor, a few others.   Less like TechShop's "rent
> our space and tools" and more like "Social hacker club/coop with
> tools"
> -M
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
> > NYC Resistor is fairly similar in model to Ace Monster Toys.  It works
> > fairly well.
> > 
> > It is not a noisebridge model.  But there are open hours when the
> > place is available for general hacking, as well as public events.  But
> > membership is somewhat drama free by design.
> > 
> > I think it really comes down to what a person is looking to achieve
> > with their community.
> > 
> > Noisebridge wants something very different from what NYC Resistor
> > wants.  But at the same time... we are all part of the same global
> > community.
> > 
> > -Matt
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org> 
> >> I've never heard of Ace Monster Toys before. Now that I looked up their
> >> website I got kind of frustrated that I have not visited them the couple
> >> times I've been to San Francisco. But then, after reading a bit more
> >> about
> >> their space, It saddened me to hear that they are not open to
> >> non-members.
> >> It is depressing to think of a hackerspace that is closed to the general
> >> public. It is almost imcompatible with my undestanding of the hackerspace
> >> concept: technological infrastructure for local communities to foster the
> >> hands on attitude, and to disseminate the principles of the  Hacker
> >> Ethics;
> >> places focused os spreading knowledge to everybody, regardless of
> >> membership fee payment!
> >> 
> >> I will probably still visit them next time I travel to the USA, but not
> >> with the same excitement of visiting Noisebridge, METALAB, C-BASE, and,
> >> of course, not with the same happyness and excitement of daily
> >> interacting with the awesome random visitors of Garoa Hacker Clube.
> >> 
> >> cheers,
> >> Felipe Sanches
> >> Garoa, São Paulo, Brazil
> > 
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