[Noisebridge-discuss] stop pretending to be me
rigelc at gmail.com
Fri May 18 07:05:49 UTC 2012
fewer words, more ass-cramming.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:04 AM, John Adams <jna at retina.net> wrote:
> Eloquent, yet, stupid.
> Thank you for your advice.
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Rigel Christian <rigelc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> i'm sure i'm going to get flamed here, but:
>> cram it up your ass.
>> if you're not committed enough to, your own self, come down to the
>> space, cut through the bullshit, and see if there is something there
>> that is worth nurturing, then you're just a fucking troll.
>> and if so, then as i said
>> cram it up your ass.
>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:49 AM, John Adams <jna at retina.net> wrote:
>> > From the outside, looking in...
>> > I was a founding member of one the earliest US hackerspaces, the l0pht,
>> > before we knew what the word was. This was when the words Open Source
>> > didn't
>> > exist and all we knew of was the League of Programming Freedom, which
>> > would
>> > later become the Free Software Foundation, thanks to RMS.
>> > It was when reverse engineering electronics wasn't much of a crime and
>> > most
>> > of the laws regarding "Cybersecurity" didn't exist yet. We started off
>> > because our girlfriends and wives (yes, some of us were that old) hated
>> > having all that technology littering our apartments and we all wanted
>> > some
>> > place to work.
>> > Women in our organization like Limor Fried (ladyada) and Window Snyder
>> > forged new ground for women in technology and rallied against
>> > male-driven
>> > engineering fields to create new opportunities to teach others
>> > engineering
>> > and security, for both men and women (and girls and boys.)
>> > If not for our ability to come together and share what we knew, none of
>> > us
>> > would have had Internet access or the chance to learn and work on Unix,
>> > which back then was extremely difficult to do (we had to cobble together
>> > Sun
>> > Sparcstations and Vax machines from junk). Even Slackware was in it's
>> > mere
>> > nascent phase of development and Linux was very, very unstable. These
>> > experiences, building these machines, built careers for people.
>> > What we did back then was more than likely illegal, and we had to work
>> > together to get access to technology. Our small group of people went on
>> > to
>> > do great things, from speaking in front of congress, to breaking RSA's
>> > SecurID, and forming great companies like @stake and VeraCode. All
>> > because
>> > we worked together on shared interests.
>> > What I do have to say is that the actions of some of the people on this
>> > list
>> > saddens me, and I am just responding to what I see here on the list. It
>> > keeps me from becoming an active member of Noisebridge. It keeps me from
>> > getting on my bicycle, riding to the mission and sharing what I know
>> > (and
>> > learning new things from) all of you because my perception of the
>> > actions of
>> > a few make it sound like a wonderful hackerspace has become overrun with
>> > drama and madness.
>> > It keeps me from donating money and certainly keeps me from helping out.
>> > You've got a permissive society here, perhaps too permissive to permit
>> > great
>> > things to happen.
>> > Cut it out. Convince me I'm wrong. I think all of you are smart enough
>> > to
>> > work through this and to realize the value in the resource that you have
>> > worked so hard to create and the insanity in allowing this to continue
>> > along
>> > the path you've chosen.
>> > --john
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