[Noisebridge-discuss] DARPA protest sign
coreyfro at coreyfro.com
Wed May 23 17:18:07 UTC 2012
I don't know if this is pretending to be me or some other Corey, but I have
been meaning to express these sentiments because I think this
confrontational approach our the right tactic as opposed to sticking ones
head up ones ass...I mean in the sand.
Obviously it reached the right audience.
On May 21, 2012 11:13 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> Corey wrote:
> > My happiest moment, actually, was when Jake came through past with a big
> > placard protesting DARPA. I don't think I saw him *not* talking about
> > the issue with people, and he was everywhere, not just in the
> > hackerspaces quarter. I also had an interesting chat with someone (can't
> > remember who), who had gone to somebody who was representing DARPA I
> > believe and giving a talk on it. He said that the speaker was dressed in
> > military fatigues, and there seemed to be a bit of a "cultural mismatch"
> > with at least a few people.
> Yes, I carried that sign: (original drawing by Ari)
> The whole time I was there, on both days. Dozens of people talked with me
> about it or thanked me, even more asked to take a picture, and many more
> took pictures without asking. Who knows how many people saw it.
> The most common question was "What is DARPA?" and I would explain, and
> tell them that this is the first year that Maker Faire is accepting money
> from DARPA and will be putting the money in classrooms, acting as a
> conduit for free advertising for the military to children.
> The most common conversation was simply "thank you for doing this."
> There were only four incidents of people disliking the sign. The very
> first person to comment on it was a Maker Faire worker of some kind,
> replete with crew lanyard and shirt and walkie-talkie and everything else,
> and she told me simply "don't believe what you read on the internet" and
> suggested I was woefully misinformed. When I asked if i was mistaken that
> Maker Faire had accepted a grant from DARPA she didn't answer, but just
> kept telling me not to believe what I read on the internet while refusing
> to tell me what I was misunderstanding. This is not a surprise.
> The second was a couple of jockish guys who really should have just
> admitted that they enjoy the military lifestyle and the theoretical glory
> of war, but instead accused me of wanting to "let Canada invade us." I
> said that I was fine with an actual defensive military but that our
> soldiers are being used for immoral and unwinnable wars for the purpose of
> keeping oil profitable for private companies, and that marketing the
> military to children was something I was opposed to.
> The third was very similar, but three guys asking almost sarcastic
> questions and clearly expecting that I would be too dull to notice. So I
> played along and answered their questions and pointed out things I thought
> they hadn't realized about the whole issue. One of them kept saying "i'm
> glad you're able to carry that sign and express yourself freely" obviously
> suggesting that U.S. soldiers killing people in Afghanistan was somehow
> protecting my freedom of speech. Eventually I tired of the conversation
> and told them, "it's OK, I understand that you guys are pro-war and I'm
> not, we can just disagree" to which they became inexplicably very
> defensive (fortunately not the kind of Defense that the military
> normally uses) but I was done hearing their self-confused blather.
> I also pointed out to all these people (and the people who were pleased
> with the sign) that considering the Pentagram's $600+ budget this year,
> the cost of a few makerbots and soldering stations was insultingly small,
> especially considering that they had been advertising with NASCAR for $26
> MILLION until just this week.
> The fourth displeased reaction was the famous Dale Dougherty, the editor
> and publisher of MAKE, and general manager of the Maker Media division of
> O'Reilly Media, Inc.
> He was very upset, and asked me if I thought Maker Faire actually got
> money from DARPA, like was it a check? And i said that MF had accepted a
> grant from DARPA. So he changed strategy, and asked "What about G.E.?
> Did you think about that? Where do you think AutoDesk gets its money?
> Where do you think I get my money?" I didn't realize who I was talking to
> or make the connection right away so I just said "Just because that's how
> you make money doesn't make it OK." He looked at my shirt and asked "Do
> you work for Instructables?" i said no, and he asked my name and I told
> him and he said "I'm Dale Dougherty, nice to meet you" and shook my hand
> (although he was clearly upset) and walked away.
> Ari drew the poster and I think the guy patting the kid's head is Dale.
> A picture of the back of the sign on saturday:
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