[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 55, Issue 25

Ari Lacenski alacenski at gmail.com
Fri May 25 20:26:28 UTC 2012


> how to remove hair from your animals to ease home or office cleaning
using waxing and depilatories

Nonconsensual cat waxing? What could go wrong?

Ari


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noisebridge-discuss-request at lists.noisebridge.net> wrote:

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>   1. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (jim)
>   2. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (Stan)
>   3. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (Ever Falling)
>   4. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (jim)
>   5. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (Kragen Javier Sitaker)
>   6. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (Kragen Javier Sitaker)
>   7. Re: Noisebridge at ToorCamp 2012 (Rubin Abdi)
>   8. Do you want a small Bloomberg B-unit (It has batteries, IR
>      sensor, Photodiode, and Biometric Sensor) (Rameen)
>   9. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (Rameen)
>  10. Interest in a "pet hacking" night? (Laura St. Patrick)
>  11. Re: Interest in a "pet hacking" night? (Rubin Abdi)
>  12. Re: Interest in a "pet hacking" night? (Laura St. Patrick)
>  13. Re: Interest in a "pet hacking" night? (Gopiballava Flaherty)
>  14. Re: Interest in a "pet hacking" night? (Stan)
>  15. Re: \so.unexcellent/ (Stan)
>  16. Re: Interest in a "pet hacking" night? (Stan)
>  17. Re: Noisebridge at ToorCamp 2012 (Ben Kochie)
>  18. nb-discuss data mining
>      (noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net)
>      (Mike Schachter (Google Docs))
>  19. percent drama (Mike Schachter)
>  20. ROBERT 2.0 should not be banned despite some      problems he
>      creates (Robert Chu)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jim <jim at well.com>
> To: Alan Rockefeller <alanrockefeller at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:32:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
>
>
>    NB history includes discussions of photos and
> vid cams with a lot of objection and protection of
> anonymity.
>    NB space is a public space, but the people are
> a community with history, conventions, standards:
> generally it's polite to request permission to take
> photos and a release is required if photos are
> published. Does release on some internet accessible
> web site constitute publishing?
>    Personally, I don't want anyone to take my
> photo for any reason. Please treat me excellently.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 20:50 -0700, Alan Rockefeller wrote:
> > Is there a rule against taking photos at Noisebridge?
> >
> >
> > I think photos should be allowed.
> >
> >
> > It is polite to ask people permission to take their pic, but I don't
> > think that should be a requirement.
> >
> >
> > If someone asked me if they could take photos, I would tell them to go
> > ahead.  There is nothing illegal in the space.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:40:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
> * [2012-05-24 12:32] jim said the following:
> > Please treat me excellently.
> >
> Do you people actually talk like this? This is the douchiest thing I
> have read on this list. Which is saying a lot.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>
> To: Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:44:43 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
> I like this guy.
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>wrote:
>
>> * [2012-05-24 12:32] jim said the following:
>> > Please treat me excellently.
>> >
>> Do you people actually talk like this? This is the douchiest thing I
>> have read on this list. Which is saying a lot.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jim <jim at well.com>
> To: Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:51:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
>
>
>    I don't talk as I wrote in this case.
>    "Treat each other excellently" seems to be the
> one rule for Noisebridge. I was trying make the point
> compactly. "Please don't take my picture" is the
> point I wanted to make. Other people at Noisebridge
> have similar feelings.
>
>
> On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 12:40 -0700, Stan wrote:
> > * [2012-05-24 12:32] jim said the following:
> > > Please treat me excellently.
> > >
> > Do you people actually talk like this? This is the douchiest thing I
> > have read on this list. Which is saying a lot.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen at canonical.org>
> To: jim <jim at well.com>
> Cc: Alan Rockefeller <alanrockefeller at gmail.com>,
> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:53:04 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:32:18PM -0700, jim wrote:
> >     NB space is a public space,
>
> Is it, really?  It's privately owned, with a lockable gate.  You might be
> able
> to argue that people have an expectation of privacy in things they do
> there.
> This is especially true if some people there are doing things such as
> making
> dildos, or admiring the dildos other people have made.
>
> > a release is required if photos are published. Does release on some
> internet
> > accessible web site constitute publishing?
>
> Publishing on the web is still publishing, from a legal perspective, but a
> model release is not required for all published photos.  Photos taken in
> public
> spaces (i.e. spaces where the subject had no reasonable expectation of
> privacy)
> are safe from an invasion-of-privacy tort.  Some uses of such photos could
> still give rise to other torts, such as using the image to imply
> endorsement by
> the subject (e.g. in an advertisement), or using the image to defame the
> subject.
>
> If a release were required to publish photos, journalistic photography
> would be
> illegal without explicit approval from the subject of the journalism.
>
> There is much more information here:
> <
> http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter12/12-b.html
> >.
>
> > Personally, I don't want anyone to take my photo for any reason. Please
> > treat me excellently.
>
> Quite aside from whether or not it's legal, I think that it is rarely
> moral to
> photograph people who do not want to be photographed.
>
> Kragen
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen at canonical.org>
> To: Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:57:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:40:33PM -0700, Stan wrote:
> > * [2012-05-24 12:32] jim said the following:
> > > Please treat me excellently.
> > Do you people actually talk like this? This is the douchiest thing I
> > have read on this list. Which is saying a lot.
>
> YOU PEOPLE may not know this, but Noisebridge's original set of rules was
> as
> follows:
>
>  1. Be excellent to each other.
>  (End of rules.)
>
> That's what Jim was referring to.  You might be able to argue that taking
> photographs of people against their will is legal, or perhaps even morally
> justifiable under some circumstances, but it is hard to argue that it
> constitutes being excellent to them, except under unusual circumstances.
> Therefore it is against the rules.
>
> Your email also does not rise to the standard of being excellent to other
> people.
>
> Kragen
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
> To: Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Noisebridge-ToorCamp <toorcamp at lists.noisebridge.net>, NoiseBridge
> Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 13:16:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge at ToorCamp 2012
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>
> We're fucking done with Maker Faire, time to give up on civilization
> and go camping! Toorcamp 2012 roll call!
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Toorcamp
>
> Add your name to the citizens list if you plan on going and want to
> camp at Noisetown.
>
> Last Toorcamp, the Noisebridge Cantina was a very central hang out
> point for many folks at camp. It would be awesome if we did something
> like that again. Miloh was talking about build the Pyramids of Giza,
> or the Yurts of Chico. Anyone interested in making our camp amazingtastic?
>
> Also we've got a mailing list, get on that shit!
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/toorcamp
>
> - --
> Rubin
> rubin at starset.net
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rameen <emprameen at gmail.com>
> To: Noisebridge <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:09:27 -0700
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Do you want a small Bloomberg B-unit (It
> has batteries, IR sensor, Photodiode, and Biometric Sensor)
> Does anyone want this tiny little thing with all these sensors. It also
> has a nice little battery pack and LCD screen:
> http://www.bloomberg.com/bunit/Overview_Features.pdf
> http://www.bloomberg.com/bunit/silver_step1.html
>
> If no one wants it, then apparently they are prepared to come and pick it
> up from me. I don't have the charger. Don't know if it works.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rameen <emprameen at gmail.com>
> To: Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen at canonical.org>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:16:43 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
> I wonder if taking excellent screenshots is excellent.
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Kragen Javier Sitaker <
> kragen at canonical.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:40:33PM -0700, Stan wrote:
>> > * [2012-05-24 12:32] jim said the following:
>> > > Please treat me excellently.
>> > Do you people actually talk like this? This is the douchiest thing I
>> > have read on this list. Which is saying a lot.
>>
>> YOU PEOPLE may not know this, but Noisebridge's original set of rules was
>> as
>> follows:
>>
>>  1. Be excellent to each other.
>>  (End of rules.)
>>
>> That's what Jim was referring to.  You might be able to argue that taking
>> photographs of people against their will is legal, or perhaps even morally
>> justifiable under some circumstances, but it is hard to argue that it
>> constitutes being excellent to them, except under unusual circumstances.
>> Therefore it is against the rules.
>>
>> Your email also does not rise to the standard of being excellent to other
>> people.
>>
>> Kragen
>> _______________________________________________
>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Laura St. Patrick" <laurastpatrick at gmail.com>
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:47:50 -0700
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Interest in a "pet hacking" night?
> Hello,
>
> My name is Laura and i recently graduated from the UC Davis Veterinary
> program. I came to Noisebridge around the Maker Faire weekend and was
> overjoyed that such a place like this exists. Besides working with animals,
> one of my other favorite things to do is work with soldering irons. I just
> got my first Arduino last week!
>
> One of the things I would like to do is hold a "pet hacking" night at your
> place. I think that it would be fun because we could do all sorts of fun
> things.
>
> Some of my ideas include how to hook up LEDs to your dog or cat's collar
> (including flea collars), how to make your computer workstation more "pet
> friendly", and how to remove hair from your animals to ease home or office
> cleaning using waxing and depilatories. In addition, I can also teach you
> guys how to feed human food and medicine to animals to cut on costs.
>
> Let me know what you guys think because I think it would be a fun night
> for all.
>
> Laura
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
> To: "Laura St. Patrick" <laurastpatrick at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:52:57 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Interest in a "pet hacking" night?
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> This sounds like an awesome idea! And partially like a troll post, but
> I'll roll with it just in case it isn't.
>
> Could you please not bring cats into the space or do anything that
> would dump a bunch cat dander into the space. There are many of us
> that are horribly (violently) allergic. Thanks!
>
> - --
> Rubin
> rubin at starset.net
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Laura St. Patrick" <laurastpatrick at gmail.com>
> To: Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:59:51 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Interest in a "pet hacking" night?
> Hi Rubin,
>
> This is as serious as it can be. I am not terribly familar with the whole
> troll concept though. I am new to mailing lists.
>
> Laura
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>
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>> This sounds like an awesome idea! And partially like a troll post, but
>> I'll roll with it just in case it isn't.
>>
>> Could you please not bring cats into the space or do anything that
>> would dump a bunch cat dander into the space. There are many of us
>> that are horribly (violently) allergic. Thanks!
>>
>> - --
>> Rubin
>> rubin at starset.net
>>
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gopiballava Flaherty <gopiballava at gmail.com>
> To: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:04:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Interest in a "pet hacking" night?
>
> On May 24, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Laura St. Patrick wrote:
>
> > how to make your computer workstation more "pet friendly"
>
> I've always been under the impression that computer workstations are, by
> default, pet friendly. The challenges facing my pet owning friends have
> been how to make them pet *unfriendly* so you can be left alone to code.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:31:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Interest in a "pet hacking" night?
> * [2012-05-24 15:53] Rubin Abdi said the following:
> >
> > There are many of us that are horribly (violently) allergic. Thanks!
> >
>
> Note to self ... <_<
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:29 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] \so.unexcellent/
> * [2012-05-24 12:57] Kragen Javier Sitaker said the following:
> >
> > YOU PEOPLE
> >
> You, sir, are a racist. >:|
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stan <stan at alcoholfueledmachine.com>
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:47:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Interest in a "pet hacking" night?
> * [2012-05-24 15:47] Laura St. Patrick said the following:
> >
> > One of the things I would like to do is hold a "pet hacking" night at
> your
> > place. I think that it would be fun because we could do all sorts of fun
> > things.
> >
> Will there be an opportunity to replace my dog's eyes with lasers?
>
> DISCLAIMER: My dog lost its sight in what is a tragic tale I'd rather
> not get into right now, so don't get all uppity.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ben Kochie <superq at gmail.com>
> To: Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
> Cc: Noisebridge-ToorCamp <toorcamp at lists.noisebridge.net>, NoiseBridge
> Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 18:36:39 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge at ToorCamp 2012
> I'm in.
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > We're fucking done with MaIker Faire, time to give up on civilization
> > and go camping! Toorcamp 2012 roll call!
> >
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Toorcamp
> >
> > Add your name to the citizens list if you plan on going and want to
> > camp at Noisetown.
> >
> > Last Toorcamp, the Noisebridge Cantina was a very central hang out
> > point for many folks at camp. It would be awesome if we did something
> > like that again. Miloh was talking about build the Pyramids of Giza,
> > or the Yurts of Chico. Anyone interested in making our camp
> amazingtastic?
> >
> > Also we've got a mailing list, get on that shit!
> >
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/toorcamp
> >
> > - --
> > Rubin
> > rubin at starset.net
> >
> >
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> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Mike Schachter (Google Docs)" <mschachter at eigenminds.com>
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Cc: ml at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 02:18:21 +0000
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] nb-discuss data mining (
> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net)
>  [image: Presentation] I've shared nb-discuss data mining<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HekJfkznZjOjOCamazFHvXg5L5Ocn1wP8c2vPCPYL-o/edit?invite=CLrH_9IN>
> Message from mschachter at eigenminds.com:
>
> Hey everyone, here's a very short set of slides for tonight's nb-discuss-data-mining-hackfest.
>
>
> Click to open:
>
>    - nb-discuss data mining<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HekJfkznZjOjOCamazFHvXg5L5Ocn1wP8c2vPCPYL-o/edit?invite=CLrH_9IN>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mike Schachter <mschachter at eigenminds.com>
> To: "<noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>" <
> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 21:20:42 -0700
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] percent drama
> Hey everyone, tonight in our nb-discuss hacking session
> we made a bar chart of percent drama in the nb-discuss
> list since the early days.
>
> Of course - we're just looking for the word "drama" in the
> subject or body of each email, this is just some preliminary
> fun and not to be taken too seriously.
>
>  mike
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robert Chu <robertayoungchu at gmail.com>
> To: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 21:38:04 -0700
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] ROBERT 2.0 should not be banned despite
> some problems he creates
> Hello Noisebridge Community.
>
> I am writing this email on behalf of the good that there is in Robert 2.0,
> and  also because I don't think that he should be banned. Before you become
> enraged with this email (or even annoyed), I encourage you to read on.
>
> I can only infer (from my experience with Rob 2.0) the situation is as
> follows:
>
> ******ROBERT 2.0******
>
> - Is one of the best software hackers that I've ever met at Noisebridge
>
> - HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DOWN TO TEACH AND HELP OTHERS with any questions they
> have. (As he only said know if he was super busy).
>
> - Came to Noisebridge and crashed a couple of public computers (with the
> intent of making them better- this was done do-ocrattically) also because
> he didn't know that it would be a problem to do so.
>
> - Had taken apart a couple of scooters (when I spoke with him, it was his
> intent to build a better one with the parts. I spoke to Rob about this a
> while ago when this issue came up. It seemed that HACKING apart the
> scooters to make a better one was completely valid since Noisebridge is a
> HACKERSPACE and it has been communally agreed upon that everything at
> Noisebridge is HACKABLE except the Membershelves.
>
> - Robert brought a cabinet of servers to Noisebridge, and was taking to
> some people to do some awesome tech stuff such as clustering, and even
> teach a class (teaching is most excellent at Noisebridge).
>
> - Robert  2.0 had slept a couple of nights at Noisebirdge (Before it was
> communally looked down upon).
>
> - When Robert 2.0 was allowed in the space he did make a lot of messes
> that other people had to clean up (which is why part of the reason some
> people got upset to the point of wanting him to not come back).
>
> - He is a hard person to communicate with.
>
> - Robert 2.0 has often been coming back to Noisebridge for various
> reasons, and has left every time after being asked to leave.
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ROBERT 2.0
> - Robert 2.0 has been asked to leave the space and not come back until he
> goes through a Noisebridge Moderation process (which I don't think he wants
> to moderate with the current moderators).
>
> - I would estimate that about $2,000 to $3,000 worth of servers that he
> was going to donate to Noisebridge were pushed out onto the street (without
> even letting Robert 2.0 know that this was going to happen), and are now
> GONE. That is $2,000 - $3,000 dollars worth of servers let the COMMUNITY
> know that this unjustice was done. IHO throwing away a hacker's hardware is
> a huge insult to a hacker. He could have been asked to move them out of
> Noisebridge if they were really that much of a problem.
>
> - I would estimate that the damage that Robert could have done to
> Noisebridge is at most ~$500 in man hours or whatever, where as the amount
> of money he lost in the form of hardware is far greater.
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> In conclusion,
>
> - Robert 2.0 is still upset that ~$2,000 - $3,000 in servers was just
> trashed without his knowledge or even being communicated to (TOTALLY
> UNEXCELLENT IMHO), and the person who was responsible wasn't even
> reprimanded at all, just because he has been a huge part of the Noisebridge
> community.
>
> - I feel that there Robert  should be allowed to return to Noisebridge,
> but only after we figure out what the problems that others are having with
> him (AS ARE DOING WITH CYNTHIA),  and work them out. I also am pretty sure
> he does not want to moderate with the current people that defaulted as
> moderators, and think that I would be able to moderate this situation
> because of my repor and relationship with Robert.
>
> Let me get in contact with Robert and see what his goals are and what his
> expectations for being a part of the Noisebridge community are.
>
> Since I am still on vacation from Noisebridge feel free to tell him to
> contact me if he shows up.
> robertayoungchu at gmail.com - 415.935.3597
>
> Banning Robert would be another example of Noisebridge Hackerspace kicking
> out another %100 authentic hacker (probably one of the best in the
> Noisebridge eco-system).
>
> Please Noisebridge (at community at large) let me sync up with Robert 2.0
> before any decision  is even discussed. I would still be pissed off at the
> person who is responsible and at Noisebridge to if $2,000 - $3,000 (maybe
> even more) worth of hardware was just tossed. I also feel that that part is
> being over-looked on Noisebridge's part (why don't we ban the person tossed
> his hardware to the curb?).
>
>
> Robert Albert Young Chu
> "Keep hackers in the hackerspace."
> Rayc
>
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