[Noisebridge-discuss] As much as I think Cynthia is crazy, I still find the situation unethical and stupid.

Thu May 3 00:20:14 UTC 2012

I wasn't referring to you.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at gmail.com> wrote:

> *NOT *crazy, because I've already been called that once or twice now....
> I'm just opinionated, and at times emotionally outspoken.
> I've been to the shrink. She doesn't feel the need to 5150 me... yet....
> but if this Noisebridge drama continues to escalate and *escalate* into a
> way bigger deal than it needs to be like it always has in the past, then
> perhaps I may consider putting myself into a straight jacket.
>
> Maybe perhaps this isn't an anarchy space; it's more like a looney
> space.....
>
> But because I like Ron and have nothing against him, I will say I have to
> agree with what he said in the other thread about hacking being way more
> fun than causing drama.... So I will retire from the drama..... for now...
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Man, what's with all the crazy people coming out of the woodwork
>> recently? Are they vying for the crazy-vacuum that Cynthia left behind?
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:36 PM, maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> # + 1
>>>
>>> # there should be NO FUCKING police in the space EVER
>>>
>>> # feds came a couple months ago and someone gave them a fucking tour and
>>> offered them
>>>
>>> # coffee and cookies
>>>
>>> # don't need to keep enemies closer when you keep them out
>>>
>>> # last two times i randomly asked people "will you say i am NOT with any
>>> law enforcement or gov.
>>>
>>> # agencies" they did not say it, left that day and never returned
>>> because they were called out male and female
>>>
>>> # and it is common knowledge there are some cop lovin sheep at the space
>>>
>>> end comments
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> REAL TALK, NIGGA.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why I would love to Ron, but I can't. You might place me under
>>>>> citizen's arrest for trespassing remember?
>>>>> And besides all my hacking related questions and answers to them I get
>>>>> from people off the list and on other forums. I keep all boring stuff off
>>>>> the discuss list and all drama related material on the discuss list. It's
>>>>> more entertaining that way. And besides I think it's a justified post. We
>>>>> don't need to be calling the police and swarming people. It's not like
>>>>> she's Pablo Escobar and we need to do a drug raid.
>>>>>
>>>>> This whole issue is stupid. And I for one am going to say something
>>>>> about it. I don't care if it offends anyone. I wasn't put on this planet to
>>>>> sugar coat things and say only things that make people feel comfortable and
>>>>> warm and fuzzy inside. I'm real.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>> * From: * Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>;
>>>>> * To: * Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>;
>>>>> * Cc: * <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>; Frantisek
>>>>> Apfelbeck <frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com>;
>>>>> * Subject: * Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] As much as I think Cynthia is
>>>>> crazy, I still find the situation unethical and stupid.
>>>>> * Sent: * Wed, May 2, 2012 4:26:23 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>   Who cares.  Noisebridge is for hacking.  Stop causing drama and
>>>>> let's get back to that.  I suggest everyone on this thread attends a
>>>>> meeting to understand what noisebridge is about(hacking not drama).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> > GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED IN A HACKERSPACE IS ONLY GOING TO DO
>>>>>> MORE HARM THAN GOOD!!! When you call the po-pos they fill out reports in
>>>>>> their little memo pads AND DOCUMENT THEM!!!
>>>>>> That means that when you get the police involved more often, the
>>>>>> likelihood of them wanting to probe an investigation on this place
>>>>>> increases!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder how many other hackerspaces have such an extreme distrust of
>>>>>> the police. I think if we were a little more open about Noisebridge and
>>>>>> what it does there wouldn't need to be such a worry about what they think
>>>>>> of us. As it is all they ever see is nutters having to be expelled from the
>>>>>> premises. If we're gonna continue to treat the space like a treehouse with
>>>>>> a sign that says 'no cops allowed' then it'll be no wonder if they start
>>>>>> thinking maybe we're doing some weird shit. WHAT *IS *YOUR FASCINATION WITH
>>>>>> MY FORBIDDEN CLOSET OF MYSTERY?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <
>>>>>> frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi to all:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a member of the community I think that the decision to remove her
>>>>>>> might have been the best idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another friend of mine agrees on that remark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 09:56:03PM -0700, Arnold Murray wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Justin, please stop trying to Friend me on
>>>>>>>> http://www.xtube.com/user_favorite_videos.php?u=JustinSFCA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I realize it's "fun" to pwn Justin, but creating accounts in the
>>>>>>>> name of
>>>>>>>> other people isn't awesome.  Or alternatively (and much less likely)
>>>>>>>> it's also not awesome to publish a link of two accounts belonging to
>>>>>>>> someone, against their wishes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's especially unkind to do this because I blocked Justin from
>>>>>>>> posting
>>>>>>>> to the list (again), and I'd feel compelled to unblock him if he
>>>>>>>> actually has a legitimate complaint with your behavior and needed
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> able to defend himself in the same forum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, please don't do that again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -andy
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>
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