[Noisebridge-discuss] thefts at noisebridge / access policy

Felipe Sanches juca at members.fsf.org
Sat Oct 20 15:58:53 UTC 2012


When I said "calipers" I actually meant pliers :-P Bad english...
It was a set of 10 pliers the we got as a gift/prize in the Great
Global Hackerspace Challenge. You can imagine how angry we got at the
guy who stole them...

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org> wrote:
> At Garoa Hacker Clube in São Paulo, Brazil, we have a policy of
> letting anybody (even non-members) use the space as long as there's a
> member around. When the last member leaves, everybody's got to leave
> and the doors are closed. (we have a system in our webpage that
> publicly informs whether the space is currently open or closed - based
> on a switch installed in our main entrance door)
>
> It works pretty well in terms of being open to the overall community
> while keeping it reasonably safe. We had only one case of theft and
> people later figured out that our calipers had actually been stolen by
> a member who left the club (stopped being a member) after some drama
> and apparently decided to steal the calipers as an act of violence
> towards us. We figured out it was him because a few months later the
> exact same calipers showed up in a photo on facebook of an arduino
> workshop he's been organizing.
>
> So, yes, you may still have theft incidents involving members, but it
> is far less likely than when you're open to having non-members alone
> in the space.
>
> Felipe Sanches
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Ben Kochie <superq at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The culture changed drastically a long time ago.  We used to have a policy
>> of having non-members leave when nobody was  around.
>>
>> I'm sorry to say it, but noisebridge was created for the membership, not for
>> random out of town people.
>>
>> I do not want the policy to be "we can't have nice things" and I'm thinking
>> it's time we as members simply close the door and reset the policy back to
>> the original configuration of being closed to non-members outside of event
>> hours.
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2012 11:13 PM, "Corey McGuire" <coreyfro at coreyfro.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd hate to say it, but I have just adopted a, "This is why we can't have
>>> nice things, and I am OK with that" Policy at noisebridge.
>>>
>>> There is just nothing that can be done at Noisebridge that will change
>>> this that will not drastically change the culture.
>>>
>>> So, what I recommend is, guard your stuff, take it home, and don't bring
>>> quality items to leave at noisebridge.
>>>
>>> If we just have crap tools at noisebridge...not broken, but cheap, there
>>> will be less theft and it won't be so hard to recover after something goes
>>> missing.
>>>
>>> One serious note, yeah, we have a lock picking class, and people often use
>>> this to discourage locking anything...but maybe it's time to start locking
>>> things.  I don't care how hard it is...or how trivial it is...to unlock
>>> something, but at least it removes, with out a doubt, that something is not
>>> meant to be share.  Lockers at noisebridge wouldn't be such a bad idea.
>>>
>>> Also, lets revisit the tote idea instead of shelf idea.  I think that
>>> would be a better barrier to theft and mess/disorganization and make the
>>> "member shelves" more useful for more people.
>>>
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