[Noisebridge-discuss] maestro and hate speech

Jonas S Karlsson (☯大鱼) jsk at yesco.org
Wed Sep 19 07:16:24 UTC 2012


I had nicely forgotten how dogs are given more rights than humans in San
Francisco.

I like good well trained calm dogs. Yes I understand that dog owners have
problem as their family members are banned in many places, but asserting
your and the dogs rights above another human is not ok. Equal possibly. If
somebody asked for the dog not to walk around freely when they're in the
space the owner should respect that. Problem I perceive is that dogs in sf
aren't very well trained and owners can in general not control their dogs.
They shout for the dog to come send it doesn't. I lived near divide park
and.... But there are exceptions. I don't see this problem since leaving...
Many dogs in China walk freely in countryside  or even in cities and they
behave better....

.zzz
On Sep 19, 2012 2:57 PM, "Tony Arcieri" <tony.arcieri at gmail.com> wrote:

> As someone who likes to argue on the Internet all the time, I'd suggest
> taking this one offline if possible ;)
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
>> maestro,
>>
>> your post below is totally unacceptible.  I don't expect that you will
>> apologize to the list, although i think you should, but i certainly hope
>> you don't do something like this again.
>>
>> you may be confusing this list with one in which you never come to a real
>> place, where people you have insulted or angered will confront you on your
>> misogyny and homophobia.  Others are upset about this too and I will make a
>> bigger deal of it if you or anyone else posts this way again.
>>
>> this is not a physical threat in any way, this is a promise to bump this
>> issue to the point where people are talking about it at a meeting and
>> considering whether hate speech like your post is a sign that someone is
>> behaving in a way that is unacceptible at noisebridge, and needs to be
>> dealt with by the consensus process.
>>
>> you're a true hacker and you totally belong at noisebridge, but there are
>> certain things that people must not do in polite society, which is one of
>> the most important features of noisebridge; it is welcoming to everyone.
>>
>> for bob's sake maestro, deal with your issues already.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> maestro wrote:
>> # MM,
>> # you have been making awesome and excellent>>
>> # points please don't encourage the mere attention whores>>
>> # to come bitch at a meeting.
>>
>> # let's bring a bunch of tranny, crossdressin, A-sexual dogs>>
>> # to the space to compliment the already current mix...
>>
>> # re: people were coming here before that aren't anymore because>>
>> # they can't breathe?
>> # in the last year there has been MAYBE one person bitching about>>
>> # bitches in the space and she was a total bitch (maybe guy) sooo...
>> # she kept on bitching and was totally ignored and hence...
>> # no more bitching. and bitches with tails are better ;-)
>>
>> # i also love those talking about people feeling uncomfortable>>
>> # when those talking about this are people who try to make others>>
>> # feel uncomfortable or try to intimidate them or self-label themselves>>
>> # NB security (there is no such thing).
>>
>> # bridgers, bring all your dogs and more often...
>>
>> stnemmoc dne
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