[Noisebridge-discuss] Who do we want to exclude? [Drama]

Ken M. Haggerty kenmhaggerty at gmail.com
Sat Apr 13 05:54:56 UTC 2013

Again, you won't get in trouble unless:
[_] It is against the landlord's policy and the landlord sees you or learns
[_] It is against Noisebridge policy (I don't think it is?) and someone
else asks you to come back in.

I would guess that it would be similar to standing on a roof or other
non-intentional space. There is no law against standing on your roof
(otherwise you wouldn't be able to clean your roof and gutters) but if you
live in a shared building most landlords will forbid it. I would guess that
the same applies to fire escapes; e.g., my lease forbids me from standing
on the fire escape other than to escape fires. In terms of the law,
you would only become an obstruction if you become immobilized and/or block
the exit.

I am not familiar with Noisebridge's lease.


On Friday, April 12, 2013, Curtis Gagliardi wrote:

> "If you're flammable and have legs you're never blocking a fire exit" -
> Mitch Hedberg (Mitch Hedberg - Fire Exit<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDrzCaC8qzc>
> ).
> I'm with Josh in not wanting to smell smoke from the fire exit, but I like
> going out there occasionally for a few minutes.  I don't particularly care
> if I'm violating the fire code or not.  Should I? If someone gets in
> trouble for it, is it on the individual or is it on Noisebridge?  Either
> way, what's the penalty in the rare case that something comes of it?
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Mitchel McAllister <
> xonimmortal at yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'xonimmortal at yahoo.com');>> wrote:
>> Okay, so far, in answer to the question posed autocratically in the
>> original poster's message and the subject line, we have the following:
>> maestro wants the police, anybody who looks like police, and anyone who
>> talks to police excluded
>> Andrew wants anyone using a dictionary or other sources excluded, and
>> also wants his time back.
>> Aly wants... what?  Not sure. I think it has to do with how the police
>> are secretly writing fire codes and building codes.
>> If anybody wants to sit down and rationally discuss ways we can encourage
>> more excellent behavior and stop enabling bad behavior, I am in Turing.
>> If you want to whine and complain, I'm on the fire escape.
>> - Reverend Mik McAllister
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