[Noisebridge-discuss] bunk beds at noisebridge?

Leif Ryge leif at synthesize.us
Tue Apr 16 10:14:11 UTC 2013

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:23:16AM -0700, Jake wrote:
> god, i can't figure out if Leif loves noisebridge or if he is a
> total troll.

I do love Noisebridge and I'm quite sincere in my belief that having a
designated napping place will reduce the problems around sleeping in the
space. I apologize for not bringing this to the mailinglist; it was
mentioned in the meeting notes for the two weeks prior to beginning
construction, and before that I sought out input from a variety of
people who I expected to have reservations about it (are you sure I
didn't mention it to you, jake? I thought I had). The general feeling I
got from those discussions was that it's worth a shot. There was not a
consensus proposal about it.

I request that people refrain from disassembling the hacker-stacker
napping pods without first waiting a while to see if they don't improve
the situation. If I'm totally wrong about my predictions, I will help
disassemble them myself.

Some predictions:

* Having a designated place to take naps will significantly reduce the
occurance of sleeping elsewhere in the space.

* Having a designated place to take naps will make waking people up in
other locations less unpleasant, because they can be invited to continue
their nap in the hacker-stacker.

* People who are in fact not really just taking a short nap will be more
visible and thus their misuse of Noisebridge will be more immediately

* Many Noisebridgers will take occassional naps, and thus will be
happier and have more energy to do awesome stuff with their conscious
minds while at Noisebridge.

* People who practice polyphasic sleep will be able to use
Noisebridge without messing up their schedule.

* Waking someone up *because you yourself want to take a nap there* will
actually make sense! (I once tried this in the library on behalf of a
polyphasic-sleeper friend who needed to take their regularly-scheduled
20 minute nap, and the person I woke up told me that (1) they weren't
sleeping, and (2) my friend was not allowed to sleep there.)

* An EEG and/or other instruments might be installed for people to
to record and publish data about their sleep and dreams. I'll let Kevin
elaborate on this plan.


ps: thanks Za and Kevin for doing most of the building! and thanks to
everyone else who helped.

pps: a certain froggy toad is very unimpressed by the design and has
sketches for a much less rectangular structure which will hopefully be
built to replace v0 in the future.

> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013, Tony Longshanks LeTigre wrote:
> >The hacker stacker. I was totally surprised when I first saw it, too—never thought the day would come, but it strikes me as a pragmatic & good-natured compromise to an obviously-not-going-away problem. I didn't attend the meetings, but my understanding is that Leif
> >championed the idea, which presumably passed through the consensus process (or not?) in order to become a more or less officially sanctioned napping area. I've taken a few naps on the stacker already myself. Not the most comfortable bed I've ever laid down on, nor
> >yet the least. A lot like jail: bright lights always on, voices, commotion, not exactly peaceful—the east end of the space feels like a much more appropriate location for it, if you ask me—but when you need to sleep badly enough you can really lower your standards,
> >don't I know it! My attitude toward sleeping in the space has evolved from "no sleeping at Noisebridge" to "it sorta depends on the individual person & circumstances." Same as with door policy, really.
> >+11+
> >
> >On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com> wrote:
> >      huh. weird. using cables as cross bracing is a weird idea but i guess it means that it'll be easier to disassemble.
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >      picture attached (taken with permission)
> >
> >      On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Ever Falling wrote:
> >
> >            oh man i'd love to see this. pics?
> >
> >
> >            On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >                  I am surprised to see that people are building a set of bunk
> >                  beds at noisebridge.  For "sleep research"?
> >
> >                  discuss.
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