[Noisebridge-discuss] Feces and Urine in the shop

James Sundquist sundquistjames at gmail.com
Wed Apr 17 19:43:53 UTC 2013

Perhaps this meme can help assuage any concerns:


or maybe this one is more appropriate


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Mitchel McAllister
<xonimmortal at yahoo.com>wrote:

> --- On Wed, 4/17/13, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> > I think that we need more confrontations with people who
> > are, literally and metaphorically, shitting in the space, to
> > discourage them from coming around as much and, literally
> > and metaphorically, make more room for the kind of people
> > who do not need to be confronted for their negative acts
> > because instead they are doing something excellent.
> >
> > -jake
> I agree. I believe we also need to be a bit more supportive of those who
> *do* confront these behaviors, rather than taking lame excuses and
> rationalizations or blaming the messenger.
> Some examples:
> * A person in the space keeps picking up people's stuff. When asked to put
> it back, we hear "I'm just looking at it". Repeatedly. And it takes ten to
> twenty minutes for the person to stop "looking at it" - Since when have
> people at noisebridge had eyes implanted into the fingers?
> * A person in the space is being loud and disruptive. But if anyone says
> anything, the person turns it into a joke at the confronter's expense.
> Because if the person is laughing and smiling, the noise is no longer
> disruptive.
> * A person in the space is confronted and gets belligerent. Somehow this
> is a signal for everyone else to pretend not to see/hear what is happening.
> * A person in the space, who cares about noisebridge enough to confront
> bad behavior, has their suggestions disregarded because "you seem to have a
> lot of problems with people."
> Later, rinse, repeat. Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited.
> - Reverend Mik McAllister
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