[Noisebridge-discuss] leave (and associated belligerence)

Tony Longshanks LeTigre anthonyletigre at gmail.com
Thu Apr 18 20:35:08 UTC 2013

"Tony knows I didn't have a knife."

Bullshit. How would I know you didn't have a knife? Your attitude in the
space has continuously been extremely hostile. You bring scuzzy disruptive
people into the space. I told two people last night about the incident &
they both replied, "I'm not surprised [that you pulled a knife], he's
brutal." That's just about verbatim.

I'm not trying to make myself the center of attention, I'm trying to make
shitty behavior on the part of yourself & others the center of attention,
so it will hopefully be dealt with, since I alone obviously lack the power
to resolve it.

As of today, I officially don't care. I've reconnected with the big
beautiful world outside Noisebridge. I will be in the space sporadically
for the next week or so, then going North for a break. From that point on
my relationship to Noisebridge is going to change, from a drug addiction to
a healthier, less intimate, more sustainable relationship.

So, since no one else seems to care about this issue, I don't either. Maybe
knife fights are just the thing we need to mix it up a bit. I've got
several knives myself for prepping food in the wilderness & self-defense
(if need be). Have fun, everyone. I still think NB is a great place. I'm
coming in later today to see if I can laser cut a couple things in time for
a meeting I have tonight.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com>wrote:

> A third party asking witnesses other than our friend Tony if they saw
> anything, maybe. An impasse would be unpleasant.
>  On Apr 17, 2013 11:35 PM, "Mitchel McAllister" <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>  I really wish you people would learn what "mediate" means.  mediation
>> implies a middle ground.  Exactly what middle ground exists between a false
>> accusation and anassertion that the accusation is false?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Date: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:14:46 pm
>> To: "Mitchel McAllister" <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: Tony Longshanks LeTigre <anthonyletigre at gmail.com>, NoiseBridge
>> Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> From: "Praveen Sinha" <dmhomee at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] leave (and associated belligerence)
>> Guys,
>> Please keep this off the list.   I am happy to mediate between the two of
>> you to amicably resolve differences.
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Mitchel McAllister
>> <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>wrote:
>> > I am finding this all rather ludicrous.
>> >
>> >  I asked  Dan one question: in what way was his yelling all overthe
>> space
>> > and deliberately slamming things around being excellent.  Dan then got
>> > belligerent to me, while Tony sat there smirking at me. Dan was the one
>> who
>> > escalated it. tried to make it a joke at my expense, and then demanded
>> we
>> > "take it outside".
>> >
>> > He seemed to think that the threat of physical violence would make me
>> back
>> > down. After we were both in the stairway, he quieted down,and once agian
>> > tried to make it all a joke. I told him that the time to admit he was
>> wrong
>> > was not after blaming me for his actions or making me the butt of his
>> > so-called joke, and I was not happy with the factthat he thought he
>> could
>> > make me back down with his belligerence.
>> >
>> > Dan made a big deal out of leaving at that point,saying he would come
>> back
>> > to the meeting on Tuesday - which I had not even mentioned.  Then he
>> went
>> > around the corner, got stoned, and came back.
>> >
>> > Obviously, my "threats" according to Tony were truly hoorifying to Dan.
>> >
>> > I am not surprised at all that Tony is jumping in with a bunch of false
>> > accusations.  I did not have a knife at any time last night. Tony knows
>> > this, as do the other people in the space. This is another pathetic
>> attempt
>> > by Tony to make himself the center of attention, at the expense of
>> anyone
>> > else.
>> >
>> > Frankly, neither Tony nor Dan can keep me out of the space. I do a lot
>> > more than either one of them does; for one thing I don't intentionally
>> > disrupt the space. I let other people work on their stuff. And I don't
>> have
>> > to put others down to justify my existence.
>> >
>> > I hear about how Dan does so much - when all he's done is move an
>> > increasingly-larger pile of junk for spot to spot.
>> >
>> > I suppose we are al
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