[Noisebridge-discuss] Who do we want to exclude? [Drama]

[Andrew Byrne]

Oh for fuck's sake and in all honesty, do you think kicking people out is a
violence of that sort and not the one I'm describing? understand, I was
speaking not metaphorically but as a real, economically and physically
moderated oppression that is injurious to millions of living individuals.
... throwin Webster's at me
On Apr 11, 2013 11:22 AM, "Mitchel McAllister" <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> You can discuss oppression, discrimination, and privilege, but that is not
> violence, except in the most abstract sense of the word.
>
> And as far as "no one would agree with" - I'm agreeing with Random House,
> Oxford Press, Webster, etc.
>
> - Reverend Mik McAllister
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> --- On *Thu, 4/11/13, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Who do we want to exclude? [Drama]
> To: "NoiseBridge Discuss" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Date: Thursday, April 11, 2013, 11:15 AM
>
> That's one definition of violence I think no one would agree with and
> demonstrates a political ignorance born of privilege; how can you deny the
> oppression we enact on countless third world workers through our internet?
> -dru
> On Apr 11, 2013 10:11 AM, "Mitchel McAllister" <xonimmortal at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=xonimmortal@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Violence is typically defined as physical, injurious force. I have seen no
> violence at Noisebridge - not even during the Scud and Chrissie soap opera.
>
> The behavior is definitely unexcellent. It is disruptive, as in
> interrupting or disturbing things that are going on in the space.
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/10/13, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com<http://mc/compose?to=andrew@pachakutech.com>>
> wrote:
> Nope, it's most definitely a violence towards others to not speak up when
> Twitchy McJunkie decides to take a post-burrito nap during the physics
> class visit. It's also violence towards others who leave b/c we tolerate
> the presence of ignorant uggles with no interest in hacking or
> self-improvement--those who don't care when their joissance overflows into
> other's work space.
>
> Don't minimize the pain... I came in this morning and promptly left
> instead of addressing the sleeping corpses and smoking on the balcony, and
> I'm rather stoic about such things.
> Point being, it's violence either way.
> -dru
>
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