[Noisebridge-discuss] cooking timers!

[jim]

    Maybe someone can show up at 5 or 6 AM and 
roust sleepers. 
    I'm for taking photos. It's a way to deal 
with non-excellence on the sleepers' (and 
thieves') parts. How to photo can be polite or 
invasive or .... A photo of a repeat sleeper 
can be posted to the NB web site as well as 
printed for a few copies in the space. 




On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 12:11 -0700, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
> Kevin, you are incorrect.  I am pretty sure our lease basically states
> that we are not allowed to "live" there.  The law is a great and
> wonderful thing at how it can be interpreted.  Since people are
> "sleeping" there (whether living or not), the argument could be made
> that it is an illegal hostel, even if someone sleeps there ONCE, never
> returns and some other person does the same the next day.   That could
> result in Noisebridge being shut down.  That is extremely unexcellent.
> Honestly, taking a picture of someone is unexcellent but it is less so
> than having noisebridge shut down.  
> 
> 
> An alternative to having pictures taken would be having a group of
> people stay there every night and stay awake all night.  They would
> need to do this daily and remember people to keep asking them to
> leave.   If you are unwilling to do this, your opinion is invalid.  We
> need either photographic evidence or the same person to go EVERY night
> without fail so that we can actually solve this problem.   If you ask
> a person one day, then I ask another and another some other day.....
> You get the point.  It could be the same person many times.  If we
> describe them, they can shave, change their clothes, cut their hair,
> dye their hair.......   A picture helps due to the fact we can have
> more defined features (face for example) and use that to determine if
> they have been there.  
> 
> 
> 
> Would you like to volunteer to come every night for the next few
> months, stay up all night and help be excellent to help not take
> pictures and keep track of the sleepers?   I bet you have a job and
> can't do this.  My .02.  
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Kevin Schiesser <bfb at riseup.net>
> wrote:
>         I disagree fully. There is not a no sleeping rule at
>         Noisebridge. Be excellent, right? Photographing all sleepers
>         is not excellent, and I feel invasive and unnecessary in most
>         situations. It's important that an effort with polite but
>         firmness is made to awaken sleepers before photographing, and
>         certainly before requesting they leave and not come back until
>         a Tuesday meeting.
>         
>         My 2c on protocol. I would be very disappointed if we had a
>         queue of sleepers at every Tuesday meeting.
>         
>         --Kevin
>         
>         
>         On 08/25/2013 02:53 AM, Jake wrote:
>                 Yes Jim that would help.  We need to figure out who
>                 the people are who are sleeping at noisebridge and ask
>                 them (when they're awake) to leave until they come
>                 talk about it at a meeting.
>                 
>                 thank you
>                 -jake
>                 
>                 Jim wrote:
>                 
>                     Would it help to take photos of sleepers
>                 and print and post them for the rest of us
>                 to identify?
>                 
>                 On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 05:10 -0700, Alexandra Glowaski
>                 wrote:
>                         7:3 sleepers to wakers; polite-but-firmness
>                         and t.A.T.u both failing.
>                         This is a solved problem: will try to pick up
>                         some very irritating
>                         kitchen timers befor I come in again. I trust
>                         we all know what to do.
>                         
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