[Noisebridge-discuss] Anyone have problems with booting out overnight sleepers in the morning?

[Ronald Cotoni]

Robert "Finny" Merrill, a lack of your planning on your part does not
constitute an actual situation where it would be ok to sleep at
noisebridge.  The rest of the city being destroyed and it is the only
shelter within a 7 mile radius MIGHT be considered a valid reason.  Living
in Fremont is your decision, not the communities.  It is also not a reason
to sleep at Noisebridge.  I would suggest leaving Noisebridge by 11 to
ensure that you NEVER miss the last train.  Alternatively, you can still go
to the transbay terminal, I bet and get home.  You may have to walk a bit
once you get to Fremont and for that I am sorry.  You may be able to
alleviate this by getting a bike/skateboard/razor/other wheeled device for
helping you move.

You may alternatively like to found a hackerspace in Fremont or perhaps try
going to Sudoroom or Ace Monster Toys if they have better transportation
access.


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:

> Any point fake-Al was trying to make was lost in their totally
> unacceptable ableist language, which is a blatant violation of our
> anti-harassment policy:
>
> "Harassment includes offensive verbal comments related to gender, gender
> identity and expression, sexual orientation, *disability,* physical
> appearance, body size, race, religion, sexual images in public spaces,
> deliberate intimidation, stalking, following, harassing photography or
> recording, sustained disruption of talks or other events, inappropriate
> physical contact, and unwelcome sexual attention."
>
> Fake-Al probably doesn't realize that their use of terms for disabled
> people as a generic insult is not okay, so consider this their gentle
> warning not to do so again as whoever they choose to impersonate next.
>
> Sincerely,
> Hannah
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to be clear, Robert, you're against me booting out sleepers early in
>> the morning because they might live in Fremont and not have a car?
>>
>> I'm assuming if they're visiting Noisebridge from Fremont, they came by
>> BART. It's pretty easy to find the BART schedule online and during non-rush
>> hour times the schedules are reliably accurate.
>>
>> And even an occasional miss of the last train wouldn't explain why people
>> are sleeping at the space over and over again. It's because they made the
>> conscious decision that they'll just crash at Noisebridge rather than plan
>> to go home at night.
>>
>> Do you have a response, or something you'd like to clarify about what
>> I've said?
>>
>> -Al
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Robert "Finny" Merrill <
>> rfmerrill at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, fuck people who live in fremont and don't have cars.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Spot on.  Sleeping/napping/resting your eyes/any sort of other excuse
>>> for
>>> > sleeping at noisebridge, means you should leave and come back the
>>> following
>>> > tuesday.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Ah, I see. To clarify, it's my view that sleeping at Noisebridge or
>>> using
>>> >> the space as a crashpad for a few hours is a problem whether or not
>>> you're a
>>> >> person who works on projects all the time and doesn't cause problems.
>>> If you
>>> >> feel yourself getting tired, you should make plans for getting home
>>> before
>>> >> you conk out.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:37 AM, spinach williams
>>> >> <spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Dec 11, 2013 9:57 AM, "Al Sweigart" <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> > Spinach, I agree. But in practice, people who are members and
>>> associate
>>> >>> > members also crash at the space. :/
>>> >>> oh, i know. you can't exactly preempt their sleeping, though.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >
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