[Noisebridge-discuss] Radio: FCC rejection letter

Alex Buie alex.buie at frozenfeline.net
Sat Dec 21 02:34:59 UTC 2013


As long as each transmitter complies with part 15 (and we're careful with
content) there should be no issues.

At least, theoretically :+)
On Dec 20, 2013 9:06 PM, "Norman Bradley" <pryankster at gmail.com> wrote:

>  J.C. Please wait for a week.
>
> To protect myself and my Ham license I will be at the Tuesday meeting and
> resign as "Radio Officer". I didn't want the job in the first place and now
> I can leave it. In addition I will need to change our FCC records to
> reflect that. A single "station" is fine. Range about 200 ft., maybe 500
> feet. Multiple "meshed" stations may bring the FCC down around our heads.
>
> After I resign if you want to put Noisebridge in danger of having $10,000
> fines it will be on your head.
>
> You are entitled to your own opinion.
> You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
>
> Norman
>
> On 12/20/2013 4:15 PM, J.C. wrote:
>
> ...specifically the FCC Unlicensed Part 15 devices
>
>  *Unlicensed operation* on the AM and FM radio broadcast bands is
> permitted for some extremely low powered devices covered under Part 15 of
> the FCC's rules.  On FM frequencies, these devices are limited to an
> effective service range of approximately 200 feet (61 meters).
>
>  http://www.fcc.gov/guides/low-power-broadcast-radio-stations#PART15
>
>  So what if you combined that with a "mesh" aspect, and you could create
> pocket stations around the city
>
>  Seems like it would make for a fun kit as well, building mini fm
> transmitters & receivers.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM, J.C. <r33lmm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So I see a couple of ways to hack this, all is not lost in the
>> broadcasting realm.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> There are drawers at the front desk station currently used to hold
>>> office supplies. The membership binder is kept near there also. Its
>>> probably the best place even though it isn't locked.
>>>  On Dec 20, 2013 8:57 AM, "Noisebridge Radio" <
>>> noisebridgeradio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I filed I was afraid that that the physical distance might be a
>>>> problem. I filed for channel 215 (90.9 MHz). In the Bay Area there just
>>>> isn't much / anything available. The best candidate frequency 102.5 had 8
>>>> different organizations file for it in San Francisco alone. In many ways
>>>> the FCC rules haven't kept up with technology. The reason for the distance
>>>> / adjacent channel rules have to do with selectivity and signal rejection.
>>>> Due to the nature of FM radio if you have 2 transmitters on the same
>>>> frequency (generally) a radio will only pick up the most powerful signal
>>>> and you won't hear the weaker one at all.
>>>>
>>>>  It was an interesting experiment.
>>>>
>>>>  I believe that Hilaire is working on an internet radio project so all
>>>> is not lost.
>>>>
>>>>  PS. Is there a place to store paper records at Noisebridge. I can
>>>> keep them however as time goes by they may get misplaced or forgotten and
>>>> if anybody deals with the FCC for any reason in the future they may be
>>>> necessary. It would better if they were stored up there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Tom Lowenthal <me at tomlowenthal.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello hammies (or whatever). The FCC thinks we're too close to other
>>>>> radio stations. Here's their letter.
>>>>>
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>>
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>>  ThanX,
>>  ;+)
>>
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>>
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> ;+)
>
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