[Noisebridge-discuss] Mesh Thursdays @ Noisebridge?

[Alcides Gutierrez]

Awesome. I feel like Johhny 5. Input. Input. More input... I will check out
the Ubiquiti options and also see how that can fit into my current hardware
setup. I did share a similar concern with the spectrum collusion. I can see
how coordination (vs. just installing a node in a home randomly) can play a
pivotol role in clear data transfer.

I'll also look into CBN. Im exploring all mesh efforts I can to compare
what technologies are being employed and how. Its also interesting to
examine the goals of such efforts.

I will definitely keep in touch. And Im grateful for your time and
attention.

Alcides Gutierrez
http://e64.us
On Feb 9, 2013 3:03 PM, "Jonathan Lassoff" <jof at thejof.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Alcides Gutierrez <alcides888 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the quick reply, Jonathan.
> >
> > To be a little clearer on my position: I'm working on a mesh project for
> my
> > particular neighborhood (Excelsior/Mission Terrace) that is not reliant
> upon
> > the Internet, but perhaps has gateways here and there. My vision is a
> > quasi-darknet with community-building services such as streaming media
> > (educational/cc-license/etc), bulletin boards, voip (if manageable),
> > local-business sites, and maybe even social networking.
>
> Gotcha. That would be awesome!
> I think some mix of internet and intranet services is what'll make
> free (libre) networks like this worth the average user's time. I
> realize that a big part of getting a private network scaled up and
> getting more content available is going to be finding and recruiting
> technologically-savvy users that can colocate hardware in their homes
> or offices.
>
> > From what I understand, scaling up directly can be difficult, but if
> working
> > in network clusters, traffic might be easier to manage. I'm not
> definitely
> > sure, but I'm intent to find out.
>
> I love talking about this. My main focus and background is in network
> engineering and ham radio, so theorizing about topologies and
> protocols is my bread and butter.
>
> Scaling up most topologies built with wired and/or fixed networks in
> mind is often doomed to fail with wireless. Managing spectrum
> efficiently is really important in keeping density up. It only takes a
> small collection of misbehaving or uncoordinated radios to cause
> enough interference to cause the goodput to drop significantly.
>
> I think the future of doing this well is in low-power radios with
> directional antennas pointing at near-neighbors, and having them
> coordinate to avoid interfering with other neighbors.
>
> This CBN project and many others are having pretty good luck with WiFi
> gear from Ubiquiti networks that speaks their AirMax protocol. It
> works around the "hidden node" problem that commodity WiFi gear has,
> and makes for decent small-scale point-to-point and
> point-to-multipoint topologies.
>
> > I plan to document my journey as much as possible with videos and other
> > media. I'd like to make this as easy for other neighborhoods to replicate
> > (and innovate) as possible and hopefully we can make connections between
> our
> > neighborhoods.
>
> If you want to dig into something right away, I'd look into getting a
> few Ubiquti Nanostations and some interested neighbors that all have
> line-of-sight to one another.
>
> > I do, however, want to exchange experiences and advice (I'd probably
> receive
> > more than I could offer), to increase interest in mesh in general and
> also
> > encourage more energy to be invested in mesh deployment and
> field-testing.
> >
> > Johnathan, I might wait before I request time if you're busy. I'm still
> in
> > an early-development phase. I'd like to have a little more experience to
> > have more fruitful conversations in the future.
>
> I'm not super-busy, but I work out of town on most Thursdays, so I'd
> come straight from work and take a different path.
> I could meet up on 2/21 or 3/14.
>
> --j
>
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