[Noisebridge-discuss] FOIA Request for records pertaining to Noisebridge

[gardner]

 Hi Ping,

   In the past, I have found that the best way to attract unwanted 
 surveillance attention was to seek nuclear fuel to create an autonomous 
 trans-oceanic submarine that would smuggle tens of thousands of pounds 
 of cocaine across international borders while remaining undetected from 
 all but the most happenstance of coincident. Hah! Just kidding. You want 
 to prove the FBI is lying. Not do something illegal to then be sure that 
 the FBI would have records.

 Now in all seriousness: Do you have reasonable cause to believe that 
 the FBI has a file on Noisebridge? That wifi AP labeled "FBI 
 Surveillance Van" was a joke.

 If you do have a reasonable suspicion then the bad news is that if the 
 FBI did have anything on NB then it is probably classified under some 
 cyber-security-paranoid-asshole secret level and the FBI would have no 
 problem straight-up violating the FOIA using some (probably secret) 
 interpretation of a recent law that any reasonable person would agree is 
 totally ludicrous and unconstitutional. The burden of proof then falls 
 on you. You will experience success appealing when you have reasonable 
 proof that the response from the FBI is incorrect. The support of 
 lawyers could not hurt. Lawyers generally hang out at the EFF, NLG, 
 ACLU, and ACLU Northern California.

 Chances are the things that are of interest to the powers that be are 
 handled by other TLAs which operate under different grants of (probably 
 illegal) power.

 -g

 On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:42:34 -0800 (PST), Ka-Ping Yee wrote:
> I posted the reply that I got from the FBI:
>
>     https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/FOIA_letter
>
> They said they couldn't find anything.  Any suggestions on what next?
>
>
> --Ping
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