[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: sleeping in turing

[Danny O'Brien]

Maestro, you're a little confused as to how things work here.

We do have a tradition of not photographing people in the space without
their permission, but we also have a tradition of not letting people live
in the space. When those two traditions clash, we talk about it at meeting
or in mediation, and resolve the problem. It's a lot lot harder to resolve
those problems if you uploaded the picture to the public Internet and that
would probably result in extreme censure, but we've definitely dealt with
documenting bad behaviour in the space in a more diplomatic way than that.

We do not have a tradition of using coercion or violence to solve problems,
and it's the proudest untradition we have. Could you please make clear that
you're not going to take such steps, so that people aren't scared of you
and your ewasting ways? I know you're a little kitten inside, but sometimes
I think you don't know how intimidating you can be, even by email.

d.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:55 PM, maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> From: maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] sleeping in turing
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
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> bullshit.
> although NB doesn't have 'rules' per literal definition,
> it has ALWAYS been policy NOT to take photos in the space without asking
> and/or announcing you are doing it and what for, or someone else has put
> something on the list that people are coming to space and will be
> filming/photos like mitch does when he sends folks on by the space....
>
> this is most UNEXCELLENT and fucking lame and not the first time this
> person has suggested doing it...
> still haven't found out what 'kind' of badge he has or reports to, if
> anyone knows please make it public...
>
> i invite anyone and everyone who catches anyone taking pictures of people
> WITHOUT their knowledge and permission to grab the camera, take it straight
> to the dirty room or wherever, and get to pounding it into e-waste making
> sure you have destroyed the disc and/or film...
>
> and this is your right by the way and NO, they can't sue you so no worries
> (great hacking too)...
>
> sleepers can be dealt with in many other ways...
> fascinating that beings would need to be told how but here are just a few
> starters *
> *1st time merely quietly wake them and calmly say IN A COOL WAY "hey, just
> letting you know the house doesn't want people sleeping and i'm just
> letting you know before others come and snap/yell at you..."
> *walk by clapping loudly, clearing your bronchial cavity, or singing
> *move one of the portable audio devices next to them and put on the
> spanish or chinese station for 3 minutes (if they haven't risen start
> dropping books)
>
> been said way too many times already but getting rid of ALL the couches
> WILL deplete number of sleepers, bedbugs, stank, and filth immediately...
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> message ends
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> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
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>> Jim (and everyone else who finds sleepers)
>>
>> Next time, please get pictures and/or names!
>>
>> it's not that hard, and it will help us deal with repeat offenders.
>>
>> keep in mind that squatters are taking advantage of the fact that we are
>> not good at tracking them because many hackers prefer to avoid awkward
>> social interactions.
>>
>> Do it!  Ask them their name, so you can post it to this list.  If they
>> are asleep or pretending to be asleep (a common tactic) take a photo, and
>> post it to this list.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>>
>> Jim wrote:
>>     I got here around 9:15 AM and went into
>> the Turing classroom. The door was closed
>> and the air smelled like fice-hour farts.
>>     Two guys seems asleep, one had just left
>> the room, one was sitting in a heap on the
>> floor and one was in a chair, kind of dazed.
>>
>>     Not excellent in my view.
>> jim the snitch
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