[Noisebridge-discuss] door

[rachel lyra hospodar]

 > Look around NB, Johny, see a lot of the female hackers that were there a
 > while ago? Where did they all go? Is there a convention somewhere else?

no way dude. i just checked with all the feminists and we'd rather hang 
out with sketchy street people than brogrammers any day of the week. 
next scapegoat please.



On 1/17/2013 3:27 PM, John Withers wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 13:57 -0800, johny radio wrote:
>>
>> Your solution seems based on the assumption that whomever gave access
>> to the bad actor is a collaborator. That may be true in some cases,
>> but surely not most.
>
> I think what Jake's pretty smart thinking here does is force us to start
> taking some responsibility for our community and the people entering
> into it and is proposing one of the only workable ways I have heard so
> far to do this.
>
> Look around NB, Johny, see a lot of the female hackers that were there a
> while ago? Where did they all go? Is there a convention somewhere else?
> What has been stated by many people and while I don't personally
> experience it, being male and all, I believe completely, is that NB has
> become even more hostile and dangerous to women than is average in the
> tech nerd community (which already has huge and well known issues in
> this area). This is because we don't take responsibility for our
> community and who is in it.
>
> We can't have nice things. This has been belabored in recent
> conversations over and over and in waves since the dawn of NB time. Why
> can't we have nice things? Why do hardware hackers realize we can't work
> on any project we can't carry in and out of the space because if we
> leave anything on our shelves, no matter how esoteric, there is a 50%
> chance it is going to disappear? Because we don't take responsibility
> for our community and who is in it.
>
> Jake's thinking here isn't the solution to the problems of our community,
> but it sure looks to me like a step in the right direction.
>
> -john
>
>
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