[Noisebridge-discuss] [sudo-discuss] Announcement - RockIT CoLabs

[Sonja Trauss]

Yeah we didn't have "hacker spaces" in Phila  when I lived there, but when
I came here I realized we did have them, we were calling them 'artists
collectives'.

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Romy Ilano wrote:

> Hacker spaces aren't that new to me. I lived in Berlin and led art
> meetings at art squats like tacheles. Noisebridge reminds me of the squats
> in Berlin or NYC there just seem to be more tech than artists ...
>
> The community and conflicts remind me of typical art collective stuff..
>
> ---
>
> Romy Ilano
> romy at snowyla.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'romy at snowyla.com');>
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 0:42, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>
> Or just get over it and realize that "hackerspaces" are so far removed
> from any real historical context that there is no such thing as a "true"
> hackerspace. I could call my bedroom a hackerspace for all the good it
> does. and my couch a "hacker" cause it can also be a bed. Culture wars will
> get you nothing but shity, stale, overanalized dead horses we like to
> parade as culture.
>
> --Andrew
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> No, actual solution: people who are attached to a certain idea of a
> hackerspace give a hard time to people who aren't/ had a different idea.
> People on each side decide whether and how much to adjust their behavior or
> beliefs to avoid future interpersonal unpleasantness.
>
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2013, Jehan Tremback wrote:
>
> Possible solution: Trademark the term "hackerspace", sue those who do not
> meet stringent ideological requirements.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> hackerspaces are combination office space and utopian capital sharing
> experiment, not to be confused with just shared work space. A place where
> "all you get is a desk and an internet connection" isn't a hackerspace,
> it's just a shared work space, even if the people are doing programming for
> work.
> I'm not surprised at all to see someone who's into hackerspaces for the
> second reason get annoyed when he thinks a hackerspce is getting confused
> with a work space.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seriously, give the guy a break. It's attitudes like Marc's that drive
> away people from the "true" hackerspaces. Live and let live: just because
> his space has a different organizational model than yours doesn't mean it's
> some sort of evil masterplan to steal all your members and get rich by
> squeezing money out of them. There are spaces in sf / oakland that charge
> $250 a month and all you get is a desk and an internet connection. There's
> room for a whole spectrum of spaces in the bay area. Mitch Altman's dream
> is a day where there are more hackerspaces than liquor stores.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seems like sort of a blend of Tech Liminal, Techshop, and a hacker space.
> Not clear why you think it's a bad thing. I don't see it claiming to be
> anything that it is not.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2013, Marc Juul wrote:
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> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:54 PM, J.C. <r33lmm at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Darren Overby <darren at rockitcolabs.com>wrote:
>
> Excuse the interruption Noisebridge fans,
>
> In the interest of possible cross-pollination, I wanted to let you know
> about a new place to hack - RocSounds like a crap attempt at kIT CoLabs<http://www.rockitcolabs.com/noisebridge-invite>.
>
>
>
> Co-working? yes
>
> Makerspace? yah
>
> Tech startups? check
>
> $200 monthly dues? yep
>
> For profit? nothing stated to the contrary. seems likely.
>
> Hierarchical organizational structure? assumed guilty until proven innocent
>
> Attempt to make their business v
>
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