[Noisebridge-discuss] happy feminist film night: Hayao Miyazaki?

[Nicholas LoCicero]

The straight people arent told to shove off. They are called allies. This
dignifies their compassion.

On top of that, if you are really in support of women, why are you trying
to assert your power over the way she wants to think?
On Jul 27, 2013 8:57 PM, "macegr" <garrettmace at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not sure where I "brushed off" anything, OR told her that she was doing
> feminism wrong. She gets to do feminism however she pleases. I only jumped
> in when she responded to Romy's friendly invitation by lumping all men
> together into an "oppressor class" which is hard to process as anything but
> deliberately inflammatory logical fallacy.
>
> How many straight people who support gay rights should be told to shove
> off?
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:37 PM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:
>
> Oh it's not invalid, just HIGHLY disrespect to brush off the concerns of
> someone of an oppressed group trying to defend their own group. i mean hey,
> why would a woman be touchy about some guy telling her she isn't doing
> feminism right tho, right?
>
> -hep
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:22 PM, macegr <garrettmace at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...followed up by the "labeling a type of argument means the argument is
>> invalid" argument. :)
>>
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:14 PM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:
>>
>> wow, the tone argument to complete this episode of noisebridge privilege
>> bingo.
>>
>> -hep
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:10 PM, macegr <garrettmace at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The only definition I challenged was whether a man could consider
>>> themselves feminist. There's anything but consensus on whether being a
>>> feminist requires a specific configuration of organs, but I believe that a
>>> man can want the same things, and that feminism is an idea rather than an
>>> accident of genetics. I'm not even claiming that I'm a feminist, though I
>>> often identify with their thinking. What Lupita might be on guard against
>>> is a sick form of sexism where men purport to be feminists but actually
>>> want to gain female approval through white-knighting the movement,
>>> attempting to make women dependent on their protection.
>>>
>>> But, to be entirely honest...I felt Lupita's phrasing was not what
>>> someone would use to reprimand someone and draw them to their point of
>>> view, but was constructed purely to ignite controversy. Therefore I thought
>>> I was feeding a few breadcrumbs to an obvious troll, which might change
>>> your opinion of how reasonable I actually am.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> hep
>> hepic photography || www.hepic.net
>>     dis at gruntle.org || 415 867 9472
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> hep
> hepic photography || www.hepic.net
>     dis at gruntle.org || 415 867 9472
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/attachments/20130727/c71278bb/attachment-0003.html>