[Noisebridge-discuss] It has come to my attention that...

Lillian Fleurs lillian.fleurs at gmail.com
Mon Jun 17 18:06:02 UTC 2013

Well maybe you should have thought about these things before you pinned me
down on a table and began unzipping my pants without any permission at all,
refusing to stop even after I froze in fear asking what the fuck you were
doing. I was shaken after that. I used to like you Drew, and it took me so
long to report anything because I was worried about hurting someone I
thought was a good person. You seemed to be high on cocaine or something,
which initially allowed me to excuse the behavior. It wasn't until other
people made me realize this wasn't just a one off incident that I decided
to report what had happened. I recall you making creepy sexual comments
about others way before this incident too, so looking back now I don't find
what happened surprising and I probably could have prevented being violated.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com>wrote:

> I would also like to point out the assumption of my guilt throughout this
> discourse; I was told I was considered a sexual predator by the anarcho-fem
> community a week before being contacted officially, and this hateful trope
> has been driving me away from the space since. It will doubtless screw with
> my social life for another few months and affects me professionally; I
> can't even get a response from Mozilla's bug network now, thanks to this. I
> know, hard to empathize with someone the mediator is calling out, but once
> this is cleared up, I'd like this experience well documented -dru
> On Jun 16, 2013 9:29 PM, "Liz Henry" <lizhenry at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would also like for this to be discussed again in a meeting. I brought
>> this up at the meeting not last week but the week before. But, I have not
>> been in the greatest of health and have missed a lot of meetings.
>> It was also brought to my attention that Jesse Z. wants to come back to
>> Noisebridge.   I do not think this is a good idea.  Basically, I don't want
>> to be around people who have behaved in the ways that either Jesse and Dru
>> have behaved.
>> There are so many good things about Noisebridge, and about its openness.
>> To keep that good for as many people as possible we do need to have good
>> boundaries.  And ask people who have shown great disrespect for others by
>> non consensual behavior to stay away and work out their issues to learn
>> better behavior in some other context, rather than being in the middle of
>> an space without much in the way of rules or safety.  Sexual assault and
>> other violent behavior destroys our ability to trust each other. I want to
>> be able to trust people at NB, and to be able to tell others they are
>> likely relatively safe there.
>> Best,
>> Liz
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Lillian Fleurs <lillian.fleurs at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> A member of the community known as Andrew "Dru" Byrne has yet to be
>>> kicked out of the community. Right before I moved he did some EXTREMELY
>>> inappropriate and non consensual things to me that extend far beyond
>>> creepy. I sent some emails to Tony "LeTigre", who then forwarded them to
>>> Liz. I had asked both of them to keep what had happened to me anonymous.
>>> I'm coming out of anonymity because it appears nothing has been done to get
>>> rid of someone who poses a high threat to other members of the community
>>> (both male and female, trans and cis).
>>> Unfortunately since I no longer live in San Francisco, I can not show up
>>> to a Noisebridge meeting but I would like this issue brought up, because
>>> others who still use the space have expressed to me that they don't feel
>>> safe around Andrew either.
>>> I'm sorry for the drama, but I'm not the one who started it.
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>> --
>> .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
>> Liz Henry
>> lhenry at mozilla.com
>> lizhenry at gmail.com
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