[Noisebridge-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Red asked to leave.
Eric W. Rasmussen
ewr at majortek.com
Tue Jun 18 03:58:44 UTC 2013
Weev was allowed to preach his racism as much as he wanted. So yes, it
is condoned.
On 06/17/2013 07:03 PM, hep wrote:
> i am also so not ok with this it isn't even funny. are people in the
> community honestly trying to say that people with racist views are
> 100% ok in this community? i am not even going to get into how
> offensive and ridiculous it is to either speculate that this is some
> "infiltration ink", that it is somehow benign ink, that there is some
> "legit ok" use of white power or nationalist beliefs around "the white
> race" or how incredibly offensive it is to even bring UP in the
> context of black power, brown power (both movements about *reclaiming*
> power for minorities which was lost or denied under racist society
> practices), or any kind of actual ethnic pride.
>
> THERE IS NO WHITE RACE. RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. PEOPLE BELIEVING
> IN SOME SORT OF ELEVATED WHITE RACE WHICH THEY NEED TO HAVE POWER FOR
> OR PRIDE IN ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEING RACIST END OF STORY.
>
> There is a HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE between being proud of one's ethnic
> heritage (irish pride, russian pride, german pride, etc etc) and
> sporting ANY kind of white power attitudes. Anyone defending this is
> defending racism, plain and simple.
>
> note: i am not talking to liz or snail here fyi, i am just including
> this whole thread so we can once again marvel at how fucked up it is.
>
> -hep
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Liz Henry <lizhenry at gmail.com
> <mailto:lizhenry at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Snail you are not the only one, this is ridiculous and
> embarrassing. If someone has a white power tattoo that they
> hypothetically regret, they can cover it up out of shame and
> regret, and so as not to piss off, insult, and alarm everyone not
> racist in their vicinity. So, fuck that guy.
>
> I am glad someone had the sense, twice, to kick him out. That
> speaks well for noisebridge's culture, even if some people on the
> list are like Oh No What About Mr Nazi's Feelings.
>
> Anyone else who wants to reveal their overtly racist body
> modifications feel free to show them off so that we know to kick
> you the hell out of the space.
>
> Cheerfully,
>
>
> - Liz
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Snail <snailtsunami at gmail.com
> <mailto:snailtsunami at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> ....
>
> Am I the only one here reading these two comments and saying
> "WHAT THE EVERLASTING FUCK?? HOW ARE YOU SO OK WITH THIS. I AM
> NOT OK WITH THIS. THIS IS NOT OK."
>
> I don't feel very casual or comfortable at all about someone
> waltzing around with a white power slogan, whether they "mean
> it" or not. If they didn't "mean it" they would know better,
> they would know to cover it up, because this shit is scary.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Andrew Byrne
> <andrew at pachakutech.com <mailto:andrew at pachakutech.com>> wrote:
>
> I've known people--skinheads--who've infiltrated violent
> racist skinhead groups with great success; I realize
> people have a lot of reasons to get inked and he may enjoy
> being approached about it in a friendly, initially
> non-judgmental manner. If he's going to be a regular, I'd
> like to be able to explain to others why I'm OK with him
> being here.
> -dru
>
> On Jun 17, 2013 4:35 PM, "maestro" <maestro415 at gmail.com
> <mailto:maestro415 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> # some beings want you to walk on eggshells even @ NB.
> # bet you 73 bitcoins if it was a black chick with ink
> that said>>
> # black pride or black power or another culture doing
> the same>>
> # NO ONE would say a word about it, especially to them.
> # do they actually know what the asian ink SAYS and
> MEANS>>
> # that comes through the house?
> # the latino ink?
> # the russian ink?
> # the invisible ink?
> # nope.
>
> # +1 jim
> # and white power isn't always a racial slogan it's
> the rascist minds>>
> # and race baiters that interpret it that way and want
> others to.
> # though of course it *is* used by beings with
> negative intonation.
> # how does anyone know he didn't do it in the pen to
> get affiliated and>>
> # survive.
>
> end comments
>
>
>
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