[Noisebridge-discuss] consensus item to change door-opening policy

Jake jake at spaz.org
Wed Jun 26 03:25:30 UTC 2013

yes of course.  You can enter a code into the payphone outside, it has 
been that way for over a year, maybe two.


On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Frantisek Apfelbeck wrote:

> Hi Jake,
> I just wonder as a member of the group of "mobile phone free people", is there a way how to enter Noisebridge at the moment on my own without the help of anyone, if you have the
> key from the doors downstairs? I'm not around at the moment but I just would like to know if there is some option for the ones who do not want to get mobile and they would like
> to come to Noisebridge when no one is in - and they are members or closely associated, however you define it. I ask because many times in past I would be coming around 7 am and
> if key is what you need to get in fine.
> Sincerely, 
> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:15 AM
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] consensus item to change door-opening policy
> Last week (June 19th) at the meeting i instantiated a consensus item to
> require that opening the door from upstairs requires a code.
> This would mean that to open the door from upstairs at noisebridge, one
> would need to either enter their code into the keypad above the intercom
> (upstairs), or by using their android app or browser page to access the
> API that way, which would still require a code.
> Using the smartphone app or webpage thing would allow the user to enter
> their code only once, since it would be cached in their phone or laptop.
> So they wouldnt have to type their code all the time when letting people
> in.
> We could still have defined periods of time when a group code or even
> promiscuous mode (for 5mof for example) would get the door open, as long
> as such changes were on a set timetable, automatically expiring.  This
> stuff is not hard to do, cron has been around since 1979.
> I am not suggesting that we turn off the doorbell (although people are
> working on a "doorbell tamer" to make it less annoying) but rather that we
> restrict the ability of people to let other people in, if they do not have
> a code of their own.
> People will point out that those without codes can still run down the
> stairs and physically open the door, but this is a separate issue that can
> be dealt with in more conventional ways.  What I am hoping to address with
> this consensus item is to take one concrete step toward the people of
> noisebridge having better control over who accesses noisebridge the space.
> Noisebridge is a very open and welcoming place to newcomers and outsiders,
> and i don't think that's a problem.  All I am saying is that those people
> should not immediately have the power to open the door for everyone else.
> I won't be at the meeting because i have a pre-existing condition, but I
> hope that all present will support this consensus item and pass it.
> -jake
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