[Noisebridge-discuss] [SPAM] Tattoos vs. behavior

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Thu Jun 20 21:05:51 UTC 2013 

Happy to talk with you in person. Just for the record, I am hopefully not
encouraging people to hack LinkReincarnate (please do not hack
LinkReincarnate).  Wasn't actually thinking of LinkReincarnate when I wrote
my mail (in other thread).  I don't follow you on Twitter.  Will happily
follow you on Twitter in return for you saying "wait, Danny didn't actually
follow me on Twitter, perhaps he has not turned into sociopath who is
hacking me up".

Will quietly note for record, guy with white power tattoo not actually
thrown out of space. That was "Red". Established very early on that "Red"
was not "Robbie". Main thing done for "Robbie" is for people to note how
disturbed they are by his tattoo, offer to fix it for him.

Am slightly amused that Drew doesn't want to be associated with the tattoo
stuff, and the tattoo discussion people don't want to be associated with
Drew. Will try to pour scorn into separate jugs next time.

Will confess to being part of sinister cabal to control every part of
Noisebridge. Am noticing, currently, current cabal's main ongoing strategy
seems to be to actually stop coming to Noisebridge, slowly disengage, step
away from the crazy, find something more fun to do, the same as many
generations of previous sinister cabals accused of taking over Noisebridge
using their mob justice. Am currently considering hobby involving more tea,
knitting. Wil possibly deploy mob justice to achieve these ends.

It is okay, for the record, to call me a neckbearded fuck, as was not born
with neckbeard. Valid criticism.

Neckbeard, for record, was not grown to cover up "neckbeard power" tattoo.

d.

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:03 AM, LinkReincarnate
<linkreincarnate at gmail.com>wrote:

> Danny don't fucking lump me in with Drew.  Or with racists just because I
> don't believe every assumption that passes through my head. If a container
> says poison does that mean it contains poison?   In fact it may have been
> useful to have a person with racist tattoos simply because it causes the
> shady racists to come out to hiding and be identified and removed from the
> group.  If you want to talk about this in person I would be more than happy
> to oblige you but frankly it seems to me like you are encouraging people to
> hack me. Especially since you just started following my twitter feed after
> this argument. While you are on there feel free to look at my history of
> fighting racism on twitter.  Of course that is not surprising that you
> would turn to mob justice given your end's justify the means attitude of
> this whole affair.  You and Lief and Snail and Liz are a cabal that hopes
> to control every aspect of noisebridge and you gang up on people who
> disagree with any tiny part of your agenda. You are living in as effective
> of an echo chamber as anything in the deep south and even using the same
> fucking logic as southerners to justify your point of view.  Your entire
> group encourages classism the continuation of racism, and sexism.   I was
> not defending racism for like the 13th time.  I was fighting the idea that
> white privilege is a concept that white people are incapable of
> understanding. If white people can't understand white privilege they why
> even bring it up?  It will only confuse us. I was fighting the idea that I
> could not understand what it feels like to live under the priviledge of
> another group or be a part of a regularly disparaged group.  None of you
> fucking know me, any of my life experiences or even what fucking
> demographic I belong to. Nor have any attempted to understand or find out.
>  In fact I am demonized for pointing out that your assumption of others may
> be wrong. How do you know that I am not a part of a group targeted by the
> kkk?  You don't. You people are soo chomping at the bit to prove how not
> racist and accepting you are that you have stopped thinking. Throw the baby
> out with the bathwater.  If assumptions and appearances are always correct
> why do we need the eff, or the ACLU? Or lawyers or judges or scientists.
> Who am I indeed you neckbearded fuck.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org> wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, David Fine is a founding member of noisebridge, and
>> he has handled such projects successfully before, so I nominate him as
>> your "trusted and known member".
>>
>> We have d.vidfine to thank for the [drama] tags on the mailing list,
>> among many other successes.
>>
>> -andy
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 06:35:31PM -0700, LinkReincarnate wrote:
>> > I'd be willing to chip in on that too provided a trusted and known
>> member
>> > of noisebridge handle the money in a transparent manner.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mitchel McAllister
>> > <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Currently, the only way I have to contact Robby is if he comes in to
>> the
>> > > space.
>> > >
>> > > - Reverend Mik McAllister
>> > > "You can see the summit but you can't reach it
>> > > Its the last piece of the puzzle but you just can't make it fit
>> > > Doctor says you're cured but you still feel the pain
>> > > Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down the drain"
>> > >  - Howard Jones, "No One Is To Blame"
>> > > Purveyor of Subversive Fiction
>> > > http://www.prismandink.com
>> > > http://www.lunatextpublications.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Davidfine  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > From: Davidfine
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] [SPAM] Tattoos vs. behavior
>> > > > To: "Mitchel McAllister"
>> > > > Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 3:02 PM
>> > > > The man with the white power tattoos
>> > > > on his triceps. You identified him
>> > > > as Robby. In a previous message LinkIncarnate wrote "it was
>> > > > what he had
>> > > > to do to survive not something he believes in", which I read
>> > > > as
>> > > > "prison". Please excuse me if I have some details wrong.
>> > > >
>> > > > I continue to offer assistance to anyone who wants to cover
>> > > > up their
>> > > > racist ink. A couple others have pledged $, too. If someone
>> > > > doesn't want
>> > > > to broadcast that they are a member of a white supremacy
>> > > > group, we as a
>> > > > community should remove any obstacles in their path.
>> > > > If someone wants to broadcast that affiliation, we can skip
>> > > > right to
>> > > > that discussion.
>> > > > --David
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 6/19/13 2:01 PM, Mitchel McAllister wrote:
>> > > > > How to reach *who*?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Reverend Mik McAllister
>> > > > > "You can see the summit but you can't
>> > > > reach it
>> > > > > Its the last piece of the puzzle but you just can't
>> > > > make it fit
>> > > > > Doctor says you're cured but you still feel the
>> > > > pain
>> > > > > Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down the
>> > > > drain"
>> > > > >  - Howard Jones, "No One Is To
>> > > > Blame"
>> > > > > Purveyor of Subversive Fiction
>> > > > > http://www.prismandink.com
>> > > > > http://www.lunatextpublications.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Davidfine  wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > From: Davidfine
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] [SPAM]
>> > > > Tattoos vs. behavior
>> > > > > > To: "Mitchel McAllister"
>> > > > > > Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 1:21 PM
>> > > > > > You don't know why I'm volunteering
>> > > > > > to chip in for someone I don't know
>> > > > > > in person? Hmm. I guess because nobody else
>> > > > was. Do you know
>> > > > > > how to
>> > > > > > reach him?
>> > > > > > --D
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 6/19/13 1:07 PM, Mitchel McAllister wrote:
>> > > > > > > I'm not sure why you are asking
>> > > > me how to get in
>> > > > > > touch with someone you are taking a collection
>> > > > for.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > - Reverend Mik McAllister
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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