[Noisebridge-discuss] Red asked to leave.

[Danny O'Brien]

Thanks Elizabeth. Just a quick note to say that this email got caught up in
moderation, because Elizabeth isn't a member of the list (non-mailing list
subscribers are pre-moderated by mailman), and was actually written on
Wednesday, in answer to that particular flamewar. Probably worth bearing in
mind if anyone else wants to rekindle the whole email discussion again.
Sorry, I missed this one earlier in the moderation.

Ever Falling is still in moderation. The last email he tried to send to the
list was a lovely picture of a person in blackface. I'm not quite sure what
he meant by that, but it still wasn't a kissy noise, so he's still there.)

d.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Elizabeth Hubbard
<emhubbard28 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I am going to address this now, albeit tired of this conversation.  Some
> dude has a racist tattoo, and my husband goes to say something to him.  First,
> he talks to an intelligent guy whose already talked to the man, though, and
> a person who is pretty much the opposite of a bigot.  This guy says that
> the man is not a white supremacist and was forced to get those tattooes.  My
> husband takes him at face value, because they’re both good people with no
> reason to lie.
>
>
>
> Then, this group-think-tank says, “Oh, no, that guy has to go,” and my
> husband, who was raised by a very nice old black guy that used to be in the
> Marines, took up for him because he had been forced to get those tattooes,
> which were now just an unfortunate part of his appearance.  And so the
> group think tank calls my husband a racist, which is laughable, but kind of
> the same as calling a person an asshole.  I didn’t marry an asshole, a
> racist, or a sexist, and any insinuations otherwise is likely a case of
> regionalism, which is like racism, but, as you’ve probably guessed by now,
> against people from differing regions.  Is it scary to see such a smart
> person from such a stereotypically dumb part of the world?  I wouldn’t
> know; I’m also a great deal smarter than I’d let on, and from the same part
> of the world.
>
>
>
> We are not proud of our southern heritage.  We grew up in a racist part
> of the world, but you would have to be an idiot to be a racist where we are
> from, because white people are in the minority there.   (Granted, there
> are some idiots there; we just don’t fall into that demographic.) We’re not
> idiots and we are not racists, so maybe the ignorami suggesting it could
> just shut the fuck up and go read some books past Dr. Seuss.  And stop
> throwing homeless people out; it’s tacky.  It’s like holding up a sign
> that says, “I’m a bad person who doesn’t give a shit that you have no roof
> over your head.”  Or holding up a sign that says, “I’m racist against
> poor people.”  Or, “I’m a classist fucktard, and if I had lived during
> the French Revolution, somebody would have beheaded me by now.”
>
>
>
> And for the record, there are many forms of racism, and, as a mixed person
> who looks white, I got to see a whole spectrum of it, and I wouldn't have
> married my husband is he was foolish enough to be a part of that.
>
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