[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] asked james to leave
Ronald Cotoni
setient at gmail.com
Thu Jun 27 18:11:48 UTC 2013
Wow. I hope this guy never comes back to noisebridge. Ever.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:11 AM, zephyr q <zv at offblast.org> wrote:
> dude whoa.
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, John Adams <jna at retina.net> wrote:
> > Wow. Hypergraphia is painful to read.
> >
> > At some point this guy will realize he's not in a public place, but in a
> > private space, and all of his allegations will be moot.
> >
> > -j
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Martin Bogomolni <martinbogo at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/94117-ca-karla-gottschalk-279161.html
> >>
> >> "This lawyer has been Disciplined by a state licensing authority."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:
> >> > Note: out of respect to David Fine and other discerning readers of
> >> > noisebridge-discuss, I've added the [drama] tag to this email thread
> so
> >> > that their filters can separate it out from emails about events and
> >> > such. Please continue to keep this tag in the subject when you reply
> in
> >> > this thread.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 02:38:47PM -0700, Leif Ryge wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 08:27:36PM -0700, Leif Ryge wrote:
> >> >> > This afternoon I asked an older man named James to leave
> Noisebridge.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is loud obnoxious James who used to wear a cowboy hat and be
> >> >> > around
> >> >> > frequently. Today was the first time I've seen him in several
> months;
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > heard he has been in southen california.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Based on conversations I've had with him and with people who know
> him
> >> >> > better than I do, I believe he harasses women on the street and
> >> >> > responds
> >> >> > poorly to suggestions that he should stop doing that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I told him that I would prefer that he *not* return to the weekly
> >> >> > meeting, but that if he wants to see if the rest of the community
> >> >> > agrees
> >> >> > with my assessment that he should not be at Noisebridge he could
> >> >> > attend.
> >> >> > He said he will stay away until the meeting and will come to "stand
> >> >> > trial".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think James epitomizes the truism that by including some people
> we
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > actually exlcuding others. I hope we don't need to spend too much
> >> >> > time
> >> >> > discussing him at the meeting.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ~leif
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ps: Thank you to the 3 people who agreed to join me in having this
> >> >> > difficult conversation!
> >> >>
> >> >> Update on James: When I arrived at Noisebridge a little while ago, he
> >> >> was outside. I asked if he was coming from or going to Noisebridge,
> or
> >> >> just hanging out outside. He said he was just standing on the
> sidewalk,
> >> >> and didn't want to talk to me, and said I should expect to be served
> >> >> with a lawsuit for defamation of character. He also reiterated that
> he
> >> >> will be at the Tuesday meeting.
> >> >>
> >> >> ~leif
> >> >
> >> > Another update on James: I received an email which I've forwarded
> below.
> >> >
> >> > ~leif
> >> >
> >> > ps: Karla Gottschalk is aka Belle Starr, according to google results.
> >> >
> >> > pps: Did you see the [drama] tag in the subject line of this message?
> It
> >> > is serious business this time! This is an extraordinarily dramatic
> email
> >> > you're possibly about to read, even by noisebridge-discuss standards.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Forwarded message from sfbaysurf <sfbaysurf at zoho.com> -----
> >> >
> >> > Return-Path: <sfbaysurf at zoho.com>
> >> > X-Original-To: leif at synthesize.us
> >> > Delivered-To: x10105657 at homiemail-mx19.g.dreamhost.com
> >> > Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com[72.5.230.95])
> >> > by homiemail-mx19.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id
> >> > 7330E2897D8
> >> > for <leif at synthesize.us>; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 00:42:06 -0700
> (PDT)
> >> > DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
> >> > s=zapps768; d=zoho.com;
> >> >
> >> >
> h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:user-agent;
> >> >
> >> >
> b=rPuy8vocF24CNOvgvejQMSZYUGwfhQrlv3FYw8n2QTfR0nTYpNW4MBJwgz1SC8dxqd3R6j5iXk9m
> >> > 0hodhFAYCtxpCJPkBDOIZhGjzM8rbrjvI5MZ0ieli/NvPaYnG/6K
> >> > Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com
> >> > with SMTP id 1372318923058576.956000365233; Thu, 27 Jun 2013
> >> > 00:42:03 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 00:35:02 -0700
> >> > From: sfbaysurf <sfbaysurf at zoho.com>
> >> > To: leif.ryge at noisebridge.net, leif at synthesize.us, leif at synthesize.us
> >> > Cc: alex <alex at primerlabs.com>
> >> > Message-Id:
> >> > <13f8494f8f8.1936987938489866316.7135960295425228663 at zoho.com>
> >> > In-Reply-To:
> >> > <13f655fc016.-1730472224149792580.2699911756372174246 at zoho.com>
> >> > References:
> >> > <13f655fc016.-1730472224149792580.2699911756372174246 at zoho.com>
> >> > Subject: LEIF RYGE: REQUEST FOR LEGAL NAME, ADDRESS FOR COURT PROCESS
> >> > SERVICE
> >> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> >> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >> > boundary="----=_Part_160044_290895452.1372318502781"
> >> > X-Priority: Medium
> >> > Disposition-Notification-To: sfbaysurf <sfbaysurf at zoho.com>
> >> > User-Agent: Zoho Mail
> >> > X-Mailer: Zoho Mail
> >> >
> >> > Mailer Daemon rejected all the variations of Leif @ Noisebridge.net
> >> > combinations.
> >> >
> >> > Alex, in the interest of transparency, please pass on to any valid
> Email
> >> > Address of
> >> > Leif Ryge. Thank you.
> >> >
> >> > James Leonard
> >> > SFBaySurf at zoho.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ---- On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:15:25 -0700 <sfbaysurf at zoho.com>
> wrote
> >> > ----
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear Leif Ryge at Noisebridge:
> >> > Thursday, June 20, 2013
> >> > RE: Defamation of Character; Slander; Conspiracy to Deny Due Process
> >> > Against James Leonard, aka Advocate James of San Francisco (former SF
> >> > Shelter Monitoring Committee Member- For ID Purposes Only)
> >> > TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN – BE ADVISED: TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IN THIS
> >> > MATTER.
> >> > FAILURE OR DELAY TO REPSOND TO THIS MATTER - IN A TIMELY MANNER IS AT
> >> > ONE'S OWN RISK, LOSS OR PERIL.
> >> > PRELIMINARY ALLEGATIONS AGAINST YOU & JOHN DOES (1,4) OF WRONG
> DOING
> >> > RESULTING IN HARM & LOSS WITHOUT GOOD CAUSE:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On or about June 19, 2013 (and any other unknown prior
> >> > date), Noisebridge Member known to me only as “LEIF RYGE” & 4
> unknown
> >> > Members or Regular Guests or Visitors to Noisebridge, a community
> benefit
> >> > space, located in the Mission District, did utter A Slander to Defame
> and
> >> > Tarnish the Name of James Leonard. This was done while he was in the
> middle
> >> > of a meeting, directly related to paid work, as Lead Investigator for
> >> > Attorney Karla Gottschalk, Special Master, to do with a Federal Elder
> Abuse
> >> > & Racketeering Case filed in US District Court, San Jose,
> California (
> >> > CASE# CV-000595), that is in progress. Said Bad Acts were carried
> out, by
> >> > surprise or ambush in front of a room full of strangers, friends,
> >> > co-workers, peers and members of the general public and of the
> Noisebridge
> >> > Membership for the intent and purpose of having myself, James Leonard,
> >> > permanently banned from said community benefit space, without just
> cause.
> >> > Further, I was denied the benefit of the organization and community's
> >> > known procedures of Due Process for conflict resolution or to get
> Meeting
> >> > Consensus (approval) to cause any person to be banned from said space.
> >> > The fact that these five persons wanted me to leave immediately; could
> >> > not give any valid example of bad conduct or bad behavior to warrant
> my
> >> > removal from the space and uttered A Slander and quick opposition to
> >> > bringing the matter before the community of the whole, leads me to
> believe
> >> > these acts were premeditated and were done in bad faith with no
> intention of
> >> > supporting my right to defend myself in an open meeting, but with the
> intent
> >> > to cause harm to me out of a sense of malice towards me that I do not
> >> > deserve.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
> >> > Noisebridge is purported to be a “Community Benefit” 501(3)(c) Non
> >> > Profit Corporation, Incorporated by the California Secretary of State,
> >> > located in the Mission District of San Francisco, CA, at 2169 Mission
> >> > Street.
> >> > According to their website and years of first person observation -
> This
> >> > is an educational, computer, hardware, wood shop, sewing, cooking,
> >> > experimenting, science, coding and electronic oriented 'space' that
> is open
> >> > 24 hours a day, 7 days of week to the general public (for community
> benefit)
> >> > and for cash paying Members.
> >> > Operating Expenses are paid for by tax free income derived from
> >> > donations, paid memberships, fundraisers & benefits – operating
> as an
> >> > educational, community benefit organization.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > OFFENDER/RESPONDENT – Leif is believed to be a Paying Member who also
> >> > acts as lead or facilitator at their recent, Regular Weekly Tuesday
> Night
> >> > Meetings. His 4 accomplices ( John Does, Number 1 – 4) who
> accompanied him
> >> > -- in support and furtherance of his bad acts are believed to also be
> paying
> >> > members OR regular guests or visitors to Noisebridge.
> >> > Official Tuesday Night – Weekly General Membership * Community
> Meeting
> >> > – The Regular Tuesday Night Meetings are open to members, guests,
> visitors
> >> > and the general public and minutes or notes of each meeting are
> maintained
> >> > on Noisebridge's servers, forum or wiki. The public has access to
> same.
> >> > WEB SERVERS-FORUMS USED TO DISCUSS ISSUES, STORE WEEKLY MEETING
> NOTES-
> >> > Their hosted/sponsored forums; wiki are filled with topics like “Who
> we
> >> > don't want to have at Noisebridge”, et cetera. Leif has an active
> email
> >> > account he uses to make postings on Noisebridge's forums and wiki
> pages
> >> > located on site, at Noisebridge.net and other related forums, groups
> and
> >> > sites.
> >> > OFFENDED PARTY/PLAINTIFF - My names is James Leonard.
> I've
> >> > lived, attended school and worked in the San Francisco Bay Area for
> over 30
> >> > years. I've been most recently known and recognized as a low income
> &
> >> > disadvantaged community and victim support volunteer (by the SF
> County Board
> >> > of Supervisors; Project Homeless Connect; The State of California and
> local
> >> > non-profit service agencies, outreach workers and the community at
> large) as
> >> > an advocate, inspector, reporter, investigator and outreach
> specialist.
> >> > For the past six years I've interviewed, consoled, supported and
> >> > defended victims of crimes and abuse, in several communities,
> including the
> >> > Mission District.
> >> > The majority of my time is spent supporting and doing outreach
> to
> >> > residents who are most at risk which include our homeless, disabled,
> low
> >> > income, mentally ill, veteran, LGBT, queer and youth residents from
> all
> >> > walks of life. I've been coming to Noisebridge to work on projects,
> meet
> >> > with at risk members of the community and collaborate with peers,
> attorneys
> >> > and others actively engaged in crucial legal, community oriented,
> social
> >> > justice work.
> >> > For the past few years, I've been going there, on an infrequent
> >> > basis. Many of the people who use that space are also members of other
> >> > projects, groups and actions that myself and others have been
> participating
> >> > in for months and years. Designing web sites, learning computer
> processes
> >> > and donating & preparing free meals and washing dishes, meeting
> new
> >> > people and mentoring to others are among the usual activities I do
> there.
> >> > The safety, security and well being & success of myself, my
> >> > peers and the residents we serve is only possible where there is
> trust,
> >> > understanding and confidence between victims of abuse, crimes &
> trauma
> >> > and our peer support groups and agencies we partner or interact with.
> >> > Much of this work is only possible because we and our 'partners'
> >> > (which include both 'grass root' non-funded community groups,
> non-profit
> >> > outreach teams, city health, building, medical and police departments,
> >> > courts, journalists, investigators, lawyers and others) operate with
> a high
> >> > degree of trust, confidence, security and good will. We take in highly
> >> > sensitive information and evidence from some of the most victimized,
> >> > traumatized residents in the city. Its taken years to get to the
> levels of
> >> > trust and cooperation we've maintained with peers, residents,
> community
> >> > groups, agencies, legislators and others.
> >> > Every time we've encountered attacks upon our integrity,
> >> > trustworthiness, safety or good reputation in the community, we stand
> up for
> >> > ourselves and the residents we serve. We have and do vigorously defend
> >> > ourselves from malicious rumors, mass media or localized
> 'demonization'
> >> > crusades, mistakes or out right lies about our work, conduct,
> behavior or
> >> > reputation in the communities we serve.
> >> > Any resident, especially the most vulnerable ones can be swayed
> >> > by false rumor, scare tactics or 'bad mouthing' of myself or our
> peers or
> >> > agencies we work with – which causes them to 'shut down' and decline
> to
> >> > report crimes and abuse or accept food, clothing or shelter
> referrals, based
> >> > on fear and lack of trust towards us.
> >> >
> >> > When reputation damaging or slanderous false accusations or
> >> > 'labels' are placed upon our names or upon our activities it not only
> harms
> >> > our ability to serve our residents most in need, it also causes more
> harm
> >> > and loss to victims and witnesses because 'lack of reporting crimes'
> by
> >> > fraud or a falsehood or malicious intent is an Obstruction of
> Justice, which
> >> > lets violent abusers run free without complaint, investigation,
> prosecution
> >> > or arrest.
> >> > Further, I am currently engaged as a legal investigator for an
> >> > attorney who is acting as an Officer of the Court in a recently filed
> >> > Federal Elder Abuse; Racketeering; Torture & Mortgage Fraud Case
> against
> >> > the County of Santa Cruz; their Board of Supervisors; local business
> >> > associations; County Planning Department Staff & numerous
> Sheriffs'
> >> > Deputies. Folks known by locals to use color of authority, weapons and
> >> > brutal assaults against residents, teenagers, single parent mothers
> and
> >> > other vulnerable renters and homeowners for decades.
> >> > Smears upon my reputation & decent character ( especially to
> >> > do with gender, abuse & safety issues) not only impairs social
> justice
> >> > for residents in dire need, but also has a direct impact upon my
> abilities
> >> > to serve as lead investigator for the attorney prosecuting a very
> dangerous,
> >> > federal case that has many lives, homes, careers and fortunes,
> hanging in
> >> > the balance.
> >> > So, to serve the interests of justice and to maintain the trust
> >> > and confidence of former, current and future victims & witnesses
> of
> >> > abuse & crimes, I must defend my reputation every time it is being
> >> > clouded by false claims, mistakes, inaccuracies or outright malicious
> or
> >> > personally motived attacks.
> >> >
> >> > Therefore, because you did utter Slander to Defame My Character,
> >> > yesterday, by surprise - in a public place filled with strangers,
> friends,
> >> > peers, business associates and the victims and witnesses related to
> me or
> >> > the support groups I work with, I must take swift action to prevent
> likely
> >> > harm or loss to me or the residents, clients or attorney and courts,
> that I
> >> > serve.
> >> > I have no choice but to vigorously defend same by any means
> >> > lawful, including filing a court action to force you to Cease &
> Desist
> >> > said Slander & Defamation and seek a Gag Order and any needed
> Order of
> >> > Restraint to stop you from causing any further harm, without solid
> proof of
> >> > your outrageous bad claims against me.
> >> > In addition to your banning of my person from Noisebridge, you
> >> > further wronged me by trying to deny me Due Process according to
> community;
> >> > legal; or Noisebridge's common practices, policies, procedures, laws
> or
> >> > by-laws, as the case may be.
> >> > When I stated my due right to challenge your false, damaging
> claim
> >> > against me, by bringing the matter before the next Regular Tuesday
> Night
> >> > Evening – you told me clearly to NOT come to the Tuesday Night
> Meeting,
> >> > contrary to well established local customs, practices, policies or
> by-laws
> >> > as put forth and commonly used by all to settle this exact kind of
> 'banning'
> >> > from Noisebridge.
> >> > You and the other 4 “John Does” who surrounded me to support
> your
> >> > bad acts, made it clear and specifically told me to NOT bring this
> matter
> >> > before the community meeting next Tuesday, which truly puzzles me and
> many
> >> > others at Noisebridge and in the community at large.
> >> > Why you chose to mistreat me apart from all others who have been
> >> > asked to leave Noisebridge, for any reason, is beyond any sense of
> fair
> >> > play, justice or fairness to all, which is what social justice is all
> about.
> >> > Frankly, due to your mean spirited speech and bad acts, I'm
> >> > concerned with the harm and losses I've already suffered by your bad
> acts
> >> > (loss of income due to your surprise bad acts -- I was in the middle
> of
> >> > using the space, as usual, to safely meet with and work online with
> others
> >> > working on the federal case and attorney who pays my bills) and even
> more
> >> > concerned about the victims, witnesses and community groups who will
> not
> >> > work with anyone or any group they do not completely trust.
> >> > People who know me well are sure about being safe with me, but
> >> > anyone who is already afraid, in a state of trauma or easily
> influenced is
> >> > likely to believe your falsehoods and will refuse to trust me or my
> >> > associates – only because or your falsehoods and misguided bad acts.
> To ban
> >> > me from Noisebridge without cause and to try to prevent or intimidate
> me
> >> > into NOT seeking due process as is the usual practice for conflict
> >> > resolution will surely cause me and the community more harm or losses
> - for
> >> > no good reason or valid or just cause.
> >> > Being banned from a non-profit, community benefit space is
> >> > perceived by many as would being kicked out of a shelter, church
> group or
> >> > other community space, putting quite the black mark upon my name and
> >> > reputation. This would surely result in my being denied, rebuked or
> shun by
> >> > others – not due to my own conduct and behavior – but due to your
> outrageous
> >> > and malicious speech and bad acts which cannot withstand an objective
> >> > challenge, in any forum or court.
> >> > Almost all of the members of the community, victims' groups,
> >> > witnesses, victims and peers I work with all work, live and congregate
> >> > around each other, in a dense and highly mobile environment in which
> all of
> >> > our paths cross every day, week or month, as a matter of habit and
> routine.
> >> > Word, especially “Bad Word” travels extremely fast in the Bay Area
> and the
> >> > West Coast specifically and in the online world of our common group
> pages
> >> > and web sites, that are read by folks from coast to coast.
> >> > DEMAND FOR NON-DISCLOSURE & YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION &
> >> > IDENTITIES OF JOHN DOES, 1 through 4:
> >> >
> >> > LEIF RYGE & JOHN DOES 1,4 & OTHER UNKOWN PARTIES:
> >> > For all of the above stated reasons, I have no choice but to
> file
> >> > suit to prevent you or more specifically your defamatory words and
> bad acts
> >> > against me, from causing any more harm or loss, without undue delay,
> as Time
> >> > Is Of The Essence in this matter.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In anticipation of taking legal action against you and other
> >> > un-named persons – to defend myself and to right this wrong; protect
> the
> >> > interests of others in the community and in the interests of justice
> – I'm
> >> > hereby putting you on Legal Notice and Demanding that you do the
> following,
> >> > in the interest of justice & equity, To Wit:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 1. Cease & Desist – from engaging in any more defamation, slander
> >> > or libel against me, my known peers or groups I work with – or with
> anyone
> >> > at noisebridge or via any online or public place, forum, web site,
> related
> >> > to this matter, until this matter appears before the court for proper
> >> > adjudication.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > YOU ARE ALSO STRONGLY ADVISED & I DO DEMAND THAT YOU AND ANYONE
> >> > ELSE INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER – DO NOT DISCUSS THIS MATTER WITH ANYONE
> EXCEPT
> >> > LEGAL COUNSEL, AS I INTEND TO SEEK A “GAG ORDER” FROM THE COURT
> (Federal or
> >> > local San Francisco Municipal or Superior Court) TO PREVENT YOU FROM
> CAUSING
> >> > MORE HARM OR LOSSES RELATATIVE TO THIS MATTER OR ANY OTHER COURT
> MATTER THAT
> >> > I OR MY CO-WORKERS, PEERS & ATTORNEY(S) ARE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > BE ADVISED - MY ATTORNEY IS AN OFFICER OF THE COURT IN AN ONGOING
> >> > FEDERAL COURT ACTION & LEGAL INVESTIGATIONS ARISING THEREOF.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2. Preserve and Keep Safe - Any and all notes, agendas, emails,
> >> > messages, postings, files, documents or records of any kind related to
> >> > myself or this matter to prevent the destruction or loss of any
> evidence
> >> > that the courts need to further the interest of justice.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 3. Provide Your Full Legal Name & Address for Receipt of Legal
> >> > Process Service - For the purposes of serving you with a Court
> Summons or
> >> > other Legal Process Service, related to this matter.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 4. Provide The Names of the 4 John Does, who accompanied you and
> >> > supported said bad acts with you.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 5. No Ex-Parte or Personal Contact - Do not attempt to call, speak
> to,
> >> > email or otherwise contact me, at all. Attempts by you to contact or
> >> > approach me directly (or indirectly by 3rd party communications) will
> be
> >> > construed as a harassment - which will trigger the filing of
> >> > Protective/Restraining Order against you and anyone who is acting
> upon your
> >> > behalf or upon your direction.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 6. Legal Contact Information - If you have anything to discuss
> related
> >> > to this matter, you may contact my Attorney, Ms. Karla Gottschalk,
> Special
> >> > Master by email at dr.karlagottschalk at gmail.com,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Signed,
> >> > s/James Leonard - SFBaySurf at Zoho.com
> >> >
> >> > Community Advocate
> >> >
> >> > cc: FYI - Karla Gottschalk, Attorney - Special Master
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> >> >
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Ronald Cotoni
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