[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss March 30th Fundraiser? Yay or nay?

rachel lyra hospodar rachelyra at gmail.com
Tue Mar 12 03:46:52 UTC 2013 

My goal here is to propogate reputation information across social nodes.
What each node chooses to do with that information is its own decision.  I
hope nobody performs any sudden witch trials on the basis of my statements
here.  I believe in a reputation based economy. Social capital and
anarchism go hand in hand. If someone starts talking about handling
noisebridge's money, and I know of their extensive reputation for being
shady WRT group money, I would be remiss to say nothing.

My understanding is that occupy is dissolved and its funds spent, so I
don't think there is any point in pursuing specific remedies on that front.

Additionally, as I said, I have little personal beef with robb.

It is not my goal to convene a trial, trade evidences, or start a flame
war. It is my goal to communicate my experiences and the information I
posess to those around me who might find them to be relevant.

Each occupy was the same, and very different. New york was able to collect
and disburse far more money than san francisco ever did, and by all
accounts in a far more functional fashion. If you'd like to trade occupy
war stories, i'd be happy to do so in a different context.  If, even after
an involvement in occupy, you have a hard time imagining anyone developing
problematic behavioral systems around resource allocation, scarcity, and
hoarding, well... I wonder if you have ever found yourself in a stand of
trees wondering where the forest is.

R.
On Mar 11, 2013 12:56 AM, "Andrew Byrne" <andrew at pachakutech.com> wrote:

> In occupy NYC, these were common tropes re: people on the finance
> committee; at the meetings I attended, half of the time was spent diffusing
> the anger of people not well versed in the procedures of the committee. I
> continue to find a Baysean analysis to be useful in this matter: your
> stated concerns necessitate an incredibly pernicious and extended
> undocumented campaign on Rob's part. Alternatively, the finance committee
> here had the same communication and perception problems I remember from '11.
> How should we overcome this?
> On Mar 9, 2013 1:40 AM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi robb.
>>
>> And noisebridge.
>>
>> I would like to share some things.
>>
>> Robb is someone I met during Occupy. He almost singlehandedly managed the
>> finances of OccupySF, as well as being involved with the media team and
>> having a finger in many other pies (ha! get it? Occu-pie!) as well.
>>
>> He would frequently schedule meetings at times when most people happened
>> to be unavailable.  There was no small consternation over his decision to
>> take sole control of the occupysf at gmail alias.
>>
>> There is also the matter of the missing money - at least $9000 is
>> unaccounted for. This is the money that I was told, by Finance, was
>> remaining at the conclusion/diffusion of the movement, ultimately never to
>> be seen again. This is in addition to monies that went missing during the
>> course of things.
>>
>> While I do not know what happened to that money, and have little personal
>> beef with Robb,
>>
>> I do not think it would be the best plan for him, or some mysterious 3rd
>> party presented by him, to handle money on noisebridge's behalf.
>>
>> My .02
>> R.
>> On Mar 7, 2013 6:52 AM, "Robert Benson" <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Stan & I are going to be talking about this Friday night. I nominated
>>> him to organize the fund raising aspect and he didn't object. We can skype
>>> you in if you can't physically make it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:00 AM, <
>>> noisebridge-discuss-request at lists.noisebridge.net> wrote:
>>>
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>>>>    1. Akihabara advice? (Adam Engelhart)
>>>>    2. Replicator Wednesday? (Chris Johnson)
>>>>    3. LCD screen hacking (Ray)
>>>>    4. Re: LCD screen hacking (Felipe Sanches)
>>>>    5. Re: LCD screen hacking (Felipe Sanches)
>>>>    6. Re: March 30th Fundraiser? Yay or nay? (Naomi Most)
>>>>    7. Re: LCD screen hacking (Felipe Sanches)
>>>>    8. attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are around next week (Naomi Most)
>>>>    9. Re: attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are around next week
>>>>       (Seth David Schoen)
>>>>   10. Re: LCD screen hacking (Ray)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Adam Engelhart <adam at tellumo.net>
>>>> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:08:17 +0900
>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Akihabara advice?
>>>> Konban wa, Noisebridge-san!
>>>>
>>>> I'm in beautiful Tokyo for a month on business, and one of the things
>>>> on the docket is a trip to Akihabara Electric Town, the technology
>>>> district. Does anybody have any information or advice for a trip? I've
>>>> only been there once before, and that was about a decade ago.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you want me to pick anything up while I'm here. Thanks,
>>>> and have fun!
>>>>
>>>> --Adam Engelhart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Chris Johnson <who_is_chuck at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net" <
>>>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:30:38 -0800 (PST)
>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Replicator Wednesday?
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> Is Replicator Wednesday happening tonight?  Where at?
>>>>
>>>>  Also, this is my first time using a mailing list.  Am I doing this
>>>> right?
>>>>
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> To: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:35:36 -0800
>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>> Hey,
>>>> I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from cameras. I
>>>> really want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>> projects! The problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and
>>>> there are no numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and
>>>> i'm not sure where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them.
>>>> Has anyone played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>> To: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:36:59 -0300
>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>> Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hey,
>>>> > I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from cameras. I
>>>> really
>>>> > want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy projects!
>>>> The
>>>> > problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and there
>>>> are no
>>>> > numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and i'm not
>>>> sure
>>>> > where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has anyone
>>>> > played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>> To: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:39:11 -0300
>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>> Are you able to determine whether these are pixel-matrix or icon based
>>>> LCDs ? Maybe by observing the contrast of light reflecting on its
>>>> surface you may see some shapes if it's icon-based or you can see a
>>>> rectangular grid if it's pixel based...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> Hey,
>>>> >> I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from cameras. I
>>>> really
>>>> >> want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>> projects! The
>>>> >> problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and there
>>>> are no
>>>> >> numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and i'm
>>>> not sure
>>>> >> where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has
>>>> anyone
>>>> >> played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Justin Morrison <me at justinmorrison.net>
>>>> Cc: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:36:44 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] March 30th Fundraiser? Yay or nay?
>>>> Let me help you guys form a planning checklist.  I can't commit much
>>>> ongoing time, but I have a good brain for squishy systems thinking,
>>>> i.e. forseeing and preventing enviro-social snafus, so at least I can
>>>> help figure out how to make Noisebridge a reasonable venue for an
>>>> event of the kind we've never done before.
>>>>
>>>> --Naomi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Justin Morrison <me at justinmorrison.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I'm in. Performing entertainment. Bringing two guests from Amsterdam.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Justin Morrison
>>>> > http://justinmorrison.net
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre
>>>> > <anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Zines, lit, merch & swag. On a table. I'll organize that. T-shirts,
>>>> >> stickers, hacker treasures, souvenirs & curios. If anyone wants to
>>>> help me
>>>> >> organize that, get at me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM, James Sundquist <
>>>> sundquistjames at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Food?  Art?  People?  Guidance!
>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>> >>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>> >>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>> >>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Naomi Theora Most
>>>> naomi at nthmost.com
>>>> +1-415-728-7490
>>>>
>>>> skype: nthmost
>>>>
>>>> http://twitter.com/nthmost
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>> To: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:40:13 -0300
>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>> Something that frequently fucks up attempts of reverse engineering
>>>> these devices is the usage of flex-connectors such as this one. It's
>>>> very hard to probe signals with such tiny connectors...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > It looks like there's possibly an IC where the ribbon cable goes in.
>>>> It
>>>> > displays full color pictures so it has to be pixel based. I can't get
>>>> a good
>>>> > close up of the ribbon cable with my phone, but there are quite a few
>>>> traces
>>>> > on it, probably on the order of 50. There is a group of traces that
>>>> are
>>>> > thinner, and a group that are thicker.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> > Hey,
>>>> >> > I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from cameras.
>>>> I
>>>> >> > really
>>>> >> > want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>> projects!
>>>> >> > The
>>>> >> > problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and there
>>>> are
>>>> >> > no
>>>> >> > numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and i'm
>>>> not
>>>> >> > sure
>>>> >> > where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has
>>>> anyone
>>>> >> > played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>> >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>> >> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:45:21 -0800
>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are
>>>> around next week
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> Some of the PyPy developers will be in SF next week and they are
>>>> actively courting appearances and dinner engagements:
>>>>
>>>> http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2013/02/hello-everyone.html
>>>>
>>>> Should we invite them to NB?  If so, when?  I'm happy to coordinate if
>>>> a few people pipe up.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Naomi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Naomi Theora Most
>>>> naomi at nthmost.com
>>>> +1-415-728-7490
>>>>
>>>> skype: nthmost
>>>>
>>>> http://twitter.com/nthmost
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Seth David Schoen <schoen at loyalty.org>
>>>> To: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:56:12 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are
>>>> around next week
>>>> Naomi Most writes:
>>>>
>>>> > Greetings,
>>>> >
>>>> > Some of the PyPy developers will be in SF next week and they are
>>>> > actively courting appearances and dinner engagements:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2013/02/hello-everyone.html
>>>> >
>>>> > Should we invite them to NB?  If so, when?  I'm happy to coordinate if
>>>> > a few people pipe up.
>>>>
>>>> I think it would be terrific if they gave a talk at Noisebridge!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Seth David Schoen <schoen at loyalty.org>      |  No haiku patents
>>>>      http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/        |  means I've no incentive
>>>> to
>>>>   FD9A6AA28193A9F03D4BF4ADC11B36DC9C7DD150  |        -- Don Marti
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:45:23 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>> Yeah, even if i do get it figured out, finding that connector (or
>>>> sufficiently improving my soldering skills to solder the tiny pads on the
>>>> end) will be the other half of the challenge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Something that frequently fucks up attempts of reverse engineering
>>>>> these devices is the usage of flex-connectors such as this one. It's
>>>>> very hard to probe signals with such tiny connectors...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > It looks like there's possibly an IC where the ribbon cable goes in.
>>>>> It
>>>>> > displays full color pictures so it has to be pixel based. I can't
>>>>> get a good
>>>>> > close up of the ribbon cable with my phone, but there are quite a
>>>>> few traces
>>>>> > on it, probably on the order of 50. There is a group of traces that
>>>>> are
>>>>> > thinner, and a group that are thicker.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >> > Hey,
>>>>> >> > I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from
>>>>> cameras. I
>>>>> >> > really
>>>>> >> > want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>>> projects!
>>>>> >> > The
>>>>> >> > problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and
>>>>> there are
>>>>> >> > no
>>>>> >> > numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and i'm
>>>>> not
>>>>> >> > sure
>>>>> >> > where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> >> > played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>> >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>> the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,
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