[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss March 30th Fundraiser? Yay or nay?

James Sundquist sundquistjames at gmail.com
Tue Mar 12 20:12:24 UTC 2013 

Volunteers to help keep the event/space flowing are going to be an integral
part of the evening.  Please help us if you feel inclined!

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Gavin Knight <gnnrok at gmail.com> wrote:

> Noisebridge has numerous ways to donate. Usually there is a lockbox of
> some kind to accept cash at the door. As you also know: Paypal, Bitcoin
> etc... I suppose some kind of tally, or register could be kept for cash. If
> someone is paranoid about funds at the door maybe there could be 2 people
> manning the door at all times.
>
> Other thoughts, creating a business like card with donation options could
> be neat, so people without immediate means to donate will follow up later.
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Donate_or_Pay_Dues
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> My goal here is to propogate reputation information across social nodes.
>> What each node chooses to do with that information is its own decision.  I
>> hope nobody performs any sudden witch trials on the basis of my statements
>> here.  I believe in a reputation based economy. Social capital and
>> anarchism go hand in hand. If someone starts talking about handling
>> noisebridge's money, and I know of their extensive reputation for being
>> shady WRT group money, I would be remiss to say nothing.
>>
>> My understanding is that occupy is dissolved and its funds spent, so I
>> don't think there is any point in pursuing specific remedies on that front.
>>
>> Additionally, as I said, I have little personal beef with robb.
>>
>> It is not my goal to convene a trial, trade evidences, or start a flame
>> war. It is my goal to communicate my experiences and the information I
>> posess to those around me who might find them to be relevant.
>>
>> Each occupy was the same, and very different. New york was able to
>> collect and disburse far more money than san francisco ever did, and by all
>> accounts in a far more functional fashion. If you'd like to trade occupy
>> war stories, i'd be happy to do so in a different context.  If, even after
>> an involvement in occupy, you have a hard time imagining anyone developing
>> problematic behavioral systems around resource allocation, scarcity, and
>> hoarding, well... I wonder if you have ever found yourself in a stand of
>> trees wondering where the forest is.
>>
>> R.
>> On Mar 11, 2013 12:56 AM, "Andrew Byrne" <andrew at pachakutech.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In occupy NYC, these were common tropes re: people on the finance
>>> committee; at the meetings I attended, half of the time was spent diffusing
>>> the anger of people not well versed in the procedures of the committee. I
>>> continue to find a Baysean analysis to be useful in this matter: your
>>> stated concerns necessitate an incredibly pernicious and extended
>>> undocumented campaign on Rob's part. Alternatively, the finance committee
>>> here had the same communication and perception problems I remember from '11.
>>> How should we overcome this?
>>> On Mar 9, 2013 1:40 AM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi robb.
>>>>
>>>> And noisebridge.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to share some things.
>>>>
>>>> Robb is someone I met during Occupy. He almost singlehandedly managed
>>>> the finances of OccupySF, as well as being involved with the media team and
>>>> having a finger in many other pies (ha! get it? Occu-pie!) as well.
>>>>
>>>> He would frequently schedule meetings at times when most people
>>>> happened to be unavailable.  There was no small consternation over his
>>>> decision to take sole control of the occupysf at gmail alias.
>>>>
>>>> There is also the matter of the missing money - at least $9000 is
>>>> unaccounted for. This is the money that I was told, by Finance, was
>>>> remaining at the conclusion/diffusion of the movement, ultimately never to
>>>> be seen again. This is in addition to monies that went missing during the
>>>> course of things.
>>>>
>>>> While I do not know what happened to that money, and have little
>>>> personal beef with Robb,
>>>>
>>>> I do not think it would be the best plan for him, or some mysterious
>>>> 3rd party presented by him, to handle money on noisebridge's behalf.
>>>>
>>>> My .02
>>>> R.
>>>> On Mar 7, 2013 6:52 AM, "Robert Benson" <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stan & I are going to be talking about this Friday night. I nominated
>>>>> him to organize the fund raising aspect and he didn't object. We can skype
>>>>> you in if you can't physically make it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:00 AM, <
>>>>> noisebridge-discuss-request at lists.noisebridge.net> wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Akihabara advice? (Adam Engelhart)
>>>>>>    2. Replicator Wednesday? (Chris Johnson)
>>>>>>    3. LCD screen hacking (Ray)
>>>>>>    4. Re: LCD screen hacking (Felipe Sanches)
>>>>>>    5. Re: LCD screen hacking (Felipe Sanches)
>>>>>>    6. Re: March 30th Fundraiser? Yay or nay? (Naomi Most)
>>>>>>    7. Re: LCD screen hacking (Felipe Sanches)
>>>>>>    8. attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are around next week (Naomi Most)
>>>>>>    9. Re: attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are around next week
>>>>>>       (Seth David Schoen)
>>>>>>   10. Re: LCD screen hacking (Ray)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Adam Engelhart <adam at tellumo.net>
>>>>>> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:08:17 +0900
>>>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Akihabara advice?
>>>>>> Konban wa, Noisebridge-san!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in beautiful Tokyo for a month on business, and one of the things
>>>>>> on the docket is a trip to Akihabara Electric Town, the technology
>>>>>> district. Does anybody have any information or advice for a trip? I've
>>>>>> only been there once before, and that was about a decade ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you want me to pick anything up while I'm here. Thanks,
>>>>>> and have fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Adam Engelhart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Chris Johnson <who_is_chuck at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> To: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net" <
>>>>>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:30:38 -0800 (PST)
>>>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Replicator Wednesday?
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Replicator Wednesday happening tonight?  Where at?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Also, this is my first time using a mailing list.  Am I doing this
>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:35:36 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>> I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from cameras. I
>>>>>> really want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>>>> projects! The problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and
>>>>>> there are no numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and
>>>>>> i'm not sure where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them.
>>>>>> Has anyone played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>>>> To: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:36:59 -0300
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>>>> Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Hey,
>>>>>> > I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from cameras.
>>>>>> I really
>>>>>> > want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>>>> projects! The
>>>>>> > problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and there
>>>>>> are no
>>>>>> > numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and i'm
>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>> > where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> > played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>>>> To: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:39:11 -0300
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>>>> Are you able to determine whether these are pixel-matrix or icon based
>>>>>> LCDs ? Maybe by observing the contrast of light reflecting on its
>>>>>> surface you may see some shapes if it's icon-based or you can see a
>>>>>> rectangular grid if it's pixel based...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> Hey,
>>>>>> >> I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from cameras.
>>>>>> I really
>>>>>> >> want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>>>> projects! The
>>>>>> >> problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and there
>>>>>> are no
>>>>>> >> numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and i'm
>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>> >> where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> >> played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Justin Morrison <me at justinmorrison.net>
>>>>>> Cc: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:36:44 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] March 30th Fundraiser? Yay or nay?
>>>>>> Let me help you guys form a planning checklist.  I can't commit much
>>>>>> ongoing time, but I have a good brain for squishy systems thinking,
>>>>>> i.e. forseeing and preventing enviro-social snafus, so at least I can
>>>>>> help figure out how to make Noisebridge a reasonable venue for an
>>>>>> event of the kind we've never done before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Naomi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Justin Morrison <
>>>>>> me at justinmorrison.net> wrote:
>>>>>> > I'm in. Performing entertainment. Bringing two guests from
>>>>>> Amsterdam.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Justin Morrison
>>>>>> > http://justinmorrison.net
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre
>>>>>> > <anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Zines, lit, merch & swag. On a table. I'll organize that. T-shirts,
>>>>>> >> stickers, hacker treasures, souvenirs & curios. If anyone wants to
>>>>>> help me
>>>>>> >> organize that, get at me.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM, James Sundquist <
>>>>>> sundquistjames at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Food?  Art?  People?  Guidance!
>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>> >>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Naomi Theora Most
>>>>>> naomi at nthmost.com
>>>>>> +1-415-728-7490
>>>>>>
>>>>>> skype: nthmost
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/nthmost
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>>>> To: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:40:13 -0300
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>>>> Something that frequently fucks up attempts of reverse engineering
>>>>>> these devices is the usage of flex-connectors such as this one. It's
>>>>>> very hard to probe signals with such tiny connectors...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > It looks like there's possibly an IC where the ribbon cable goes
>>>>>> in. It
>>>>>> > displays full color pictures so it has to be pixel based. I can't
>>>>>> get a good
>>>>>> > close up of the ribbon cable with my phone, but there are quite a
>>>>>> few traces
>>>>>> > on it, probably on the order of 50. There is a group of traces that
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > thinner, and a group that are thicker.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Felipe Sanches <
>>>>>> juca at members.fsf.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > Hey,
>>>>>> >> > I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from
>>>>>> cameras. I
>>>>>> >> > really
>>>>>> >> > want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>>>> projects!
>>>>>> >> > The
>>>>>> >> > problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and
>>>>>> there are
>>>>>> >> > no
>>>>>> >> > numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and
>>>>>> i'm not
>>>>>> >> > sure
>>>>>> >> > where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> >> > played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>> >> > https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:45:21 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are
>>>>>> around next week
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the PyPy developers will be in SF next week and they are
>>>>>> actively courting appearances and dinner engagements:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2013/02/hello-everyone.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should we invite them to NB?  If so, when?  I'm happy to coordinate if
>>>>>> a few people pipe up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Naomi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Naomi Theora Most
>>>>>> naomi at nthmost.com
>>>>>> +1-415-728-7490
>>>>>>
>>>>>> skype: nthmost
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/nthmost
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Seth David Schoen <schoen at loyalty.org>
>>>>>> To: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:56:12 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] attn Python hackers: PyPy guys are
>>>>>> around next week
>>>>>> Naomi Most writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Greetings,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Some of the PyPy developers will be in SF next week and they are
>>>>>> > actively courting appearances and dinner engagements:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2013/02/hello-everyone.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Should we invite them to NB?  If so, when?  I'm happy to coordinate
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> > a few people pipe up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it would be terrific if they gave a talk at Noisebridge!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Seth David Schoen <schoen at loyalty.org>      |  No haiku patents
>>>>>>      http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/        |  means I've no
>>>>>> incentive to
>>>>>>   FD9A6AA28193A9F03D4BF4ADC11B36DC9C7DD150  |        -- Don Marti
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>
>>>>>> Cc: noisebridge-discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:45:23 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] LCD screen hacking
>>>>>> Yeah, even if i do get it figured out, finding that connector (or
>>>>>> sufficiently improving my soldering skills to solder the tiny pads on the
>>>>>> end) will be the other half of the challenge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca at members.fsf.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something that frequently fucks up attempts of reverse engineering
>>>>>>> these devices is the usage of flex-connectors such as this one. It's
>>>>>>> very hard to probe signals with such tiny connectors...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > It looks like there's possibly an IC where the ribbon cable goes
>>>>>>> in. It
>>>>>>> > displays full color pictures so it has to be pixel based. I can't
>>>>>>> get a good
>>>>>>> > close up of the ribbon cable with my phone, but there are quite a
>>>>>>> few traces
>>>>>>> > on it, probably on the order of 50. There is a group of traces
>>>>>>> that are
>>>>>>> > thinner, and a group that are thicker.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Felipe Sanches <
>>>>>>> juca at members.fsf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Can you send us a photo of it, please?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Ray <waywardengineer at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > Hey,
>>>>>>> >> > I have come upon a big pile of identical LCD screens from
>>>>>>> cameras. I
>>>>>>> >> > really
>>>>>>> >> > want to figure out how to make these do something for artsy
>>>>>>> projects!
>>>>>>> >> > The
>>>>>>> >> > problem is that there are no driver ICs visible on them, and
>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>> >> > no
>>>>>>> >> > numbers on there that seem to turn up anything on google, and
>>>>>>> i'm not
>>>>>>> >> > sure
>>>>>>> >> > where to go next on trying to figure out how to drive them. Has
>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> >> > played around with driving TFT displays?
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>> >> > Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *occupysf.org*
>>>>> *twitter.com/sf99er*
>>>>> *youtube.com/sf99er*
>>>>> *ustream.tv/channel/occupysflive*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
>>>>> then you win*.
>>>>> - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
>>>>>
>>>>> *But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably
>>>>> the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism,
>>>>> it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to
>>>>> provide new Guards for their future security.*
>>>>> - Declaration of Independence*
>>>>> *
>>>>>
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