[Noisebridge-discuss] door camera light

[Jake]

yes, it's true, there should be a lamp on the outside of the gate so you 
can see who's out there when it gets dark.

Rayc installed a lamp out there, and plugged it into a timer which was 
plugged into the extension cord out there.

if it's not working, i am sure it can be easily repaired.  Most likely by 
plugging the thing back into the extension cord and resetting the timer.

I volunteer you!  go out there (with something to stand on unless you're 
tall) and fix the outdoor light system.  It should come on when it gets 
dark and turn off when the sun starts coming up.  problem solved!

-jake

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013, James Sundquist wrote:

> Having a good door light would be awesome!  It is impossible to see anything
> once it gets dark on the video monitor
> 
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Sai <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:
>       So… practical question.
>
>       I can see that, if you're intending to prevent someone from
>       entering,
>       you should do so at the street. However… that doesn't really
>       seem to
>       be in the cards here.
>
>       If someone wants in to NB, they can probably get in, by waiting
>       for
>       someone to use the door, asking someone else to let them in, etc
>       etc.
>       AFAICT the point of the "greet at door" bit is not to turn
>       people
>       away, but to humanize the space, make sure new people get
>       introduced,
>       have others aware of who's walking around, that sort of thing.
>
>       You seem to be suggesting otherwise, so: could you please
>       suggest
>       guidelines for who you think should be refused entrance, that
>       can be
>       done via a shitty videophone? E.g. what questions must someone
>       be able
>       to answer over intercom? Must they be recognized by someone in
>       the
>       space? Must they not look some particular way?
>
>       I'd bet that you can't. (Possibly with the exception of
>       uniformed
>       police or obvious Secret Service?)
> 
>
>       Unless I'm wrong with that bet, I'd suggest we own up to the
>       fact that
>       what's really on the table is face-to-face interaction in the
>       space,
>       with the (extremely rare) possibility of ejecting someone who is
>       there
>       — and not, really, turning people away at the gate.
>
>       The two call for fairly different responses. Moving the lock to
>       the
>       top door would help for the humanize version. A better camera
>       and a
>       door way light would help for at-the-gate version.
>
>       - Sai
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>       On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> > here we go again...
> >
> > also i'll remind everyone that as tenants of 2169 mission it is our
> > responsibility to not allow anyone into the building (past the main
> gate)
> > who we are not allowing into the third floor.
> >
> >https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2012-February/028
> 220.html
> >
> > [Noisebridge-discuss] Upstairs door latch mechanism?
> > Jake jake at spaz.org
> > Fri Feb 10 02:34:39 PST 2012
> >
> > I guess a bunch of people have been talking about latching or
> locking the
> > upstairs door.
> >
> > Are you people crazy?  Don't you realize that by the time someone is
> > upstairs they feel as though they are practically inside the space
> > already?
> >
> > If you can't turn someone away at the sidewalk, and they get to the
> top of
> > the stairs, it is only going to make them angry if you refuse to let
> them
> > in.  It is going to create more conflict, not less, especially if
> you use
> > the smarmy little porthole to shield yourself while refusing to let
> > someone in while someone else comes up behind you and second-guesses
> your
> > decision in front of the person.
> >
> > have you ever been at a teller window (post office for example)
> where the
> > clerk, who is telling you NO you can't have what you came here for,
> is
> > isolated behind a 2" thick piece of lexan with a tiny little
> breathing
> > hole where you're supposed to talk and listen through?  Do you
> remember
> > feeling hostility toward that person and wondering what you would do
> if
> > you could reach through the little hole and strangle them?
> >
> > well that's whats going to happen to you if you try to keep people
> out at
> > the top of the stairs, because eventually someone is going to open
> the
> > door and that person is going to come in anyway, and be pissed at
> you.
> >
> > We need to focus on bouncing people at the sidewalk door.  If you
> are
> > having trouble understanding this concept, please ask some people
> whose
> > opinion you trust before continuing with this idea of locking the
> upstairs
> > door.
> >
> > sincerely,
> > -jake
> >
> > Casey Callendrello wrote (Thu Feb 9 22:58:35 PST 2012):
> >
> > Hi there.
> > The upstairs door is already keyed with the A-key. However, the
> latch
> > mechanism has been removed. Does anyone know where it is?
> >
> > If not, I'll try to order a new one. The crash bar is a "Von Duprin
> 44".
> > However, these parts are surprisingly expensive and hard to track
> down.
> >
> > --c.
> >
> >
> > Casey Callendrello wrote:
> > Adding a lock to the upstairs door is quite doable. I've looked in
> to
> > this before. There are a few things that need to be done:
> >
> > 1) Some boring locksmithy stuff of getting some locks re-keyed
> > 2) Re-building the elevator lobby door. Not too hard
> > 3) Electronic strikes for both doors
> > 4) Pin pads for both doors
> >
> > 1 and 2 are easy. 3 and 4 are also pretty simple, but will take some
> > proper effort.
> >
> > --Casey
> >
> >
> > On 3/21/13 11:34 AM, Martin Bogomolni wrote:
> >>
> >> In changing the problem I'm aligned with Rachel.  Move the lock
> from
> >> -downstairs- to the upstairs door.   Also move the pin pad to the
> >> upstairs door.
> >>
> >> For our mobility-impaired members, and people who come on bikes, do
> >> the same with an alternate wide door at the top landing where the
> >> elevator is.   (Wall up the side door, make a sure door in front of
> >> the elevator.   It's relatively easy to frame it up and put in a
> >> prehung door.   Costs are pretty controlled for this.
> >>
> >> -M
> >
> >
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