[Noisebridge-discuss] anti-anonymity proposals

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Fri Nov 15 02:02:24 UTC 2013

I'm pretty neutral on this suggestion, and mildly leaning against
because (as with all people connected to Noisebridge) I become more
conservative about change the further I float away from it, but just
to continue the discussion: how does this prevent anonymous
membership? The wiki is open to Tor use, doesn't require an email to
sign up, and you can use a nym.

I guess my criteria for whether this affects things is: could John
Walters be a member of Noisebridge still? Could someone who we only
know as "Funny Bill"?


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
> I was disheartened to see the following:
>> B. We discussed Tom's proposal to make the list of members public. We
>> agreed the following:
>> "It shall not a secret whether a person is Member of Noisebridge. It shall
>> be the responsibility of each member to identify themself as a member by
>> adding the Category:Members to their wiki user page. Until a Member so
>> identifies, they shall not be entitled to any privilege of Noisebridge
>> Membership. Likewise, if a member is on Membership/Hiatus, they must
>> indicate this by adding the Category:Hiatus to their wiki user page; this
>> method of so identifying shall replace any other notification requirement
>> for going on and coming off hiatus. Although it shall generally be a
>> responsibility shared by all members to ensure that this category of
>> identification is used correctly, in cases where its use is disputed,
>> Noisebridge's secretary shall be the final arbiter."
> It has never been a secret that a person is a member of Noisebridge -
> rather if someone wishes to identify as such, it is their choice. The
> membership binder and the treasurer are the final arbiter of any
> statements made by anyone, of course.
> With that said - the above is rather sad but the following for next week
> is really sad:
>> A. "As a result of our prior conversation, we collectively propose: If a
>> member has not identified themself as such by adding the Category:Members
>> to their wiki user page by $DATE, they shall no longer be a member of
>> Noisebridge."
> I object and request a proxy at the next meeting to block this in the
> consensus process.
> Members of Noisebridge have a right to privacy and they should have a
> right to decide if they disclose their affiliation with Noisebridge.
> This robs them of that ability in a time when we face massive
> persecution from both corporate and state actors.
> Sincerely,
> Jacob
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