[Noisebridge-discuss] Consensus proposal to invalidate 2013-10-15 consensus item due to bad process

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 22:01:35 UTC 2013

Right: the points you bring up are the issue here. Was the process being
followed? If not, we should invalidate that consensus item (because the
process was not followed) and if so, it doesn't need to be debated further.

We can talk about all this at the meeting.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM, davidfine <d at vidfine.com> wrote:

>  You can propose to invalidate the decision, but don't do it for my sake.
> I'm not opposed to the decision, although I insist that it's not valid
> until its been through the proper consensus process. The debate you and I
> are engaged in is about whether items passed with bad process should need
> to be voided, or whether they're invalid in the first place.
> The other point of contention is that  you consider members
> _at_the_meeting to be the final word on whether changes _they_introduced
> are major or minor. I consider that dangerous, and everyone reading now has
> an example of how that can shoot us in the foot.
> If you think this thread is annoying, imagine the shit-storm it could
> cause in the future! It is indeed a bug in our process, and I'm confident
> we'll have it patched shortly.
> Consensus is fun, eh?
> --David
> On 11/21/13, 1:21 PM, Al Sweigart wrote:
> On 2013-10-15 an item was passed by consensus that David Fine and James
> Sundquist point out may have been changed to the point that an additional
> week of discussion should have been necessary.
>  This proposal would invalidate the 2013-10-15 consensus item about
> Associate Membership & Dues Requirements so that this week of discussion
> can take place, and then the item can be put back up for consensus.
>  -Al
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