[Noisebridge-discuss] Private Address Forwarding proposal to USPS

Sai noisebridge at saizai.com
Tue Oct 22 04:19:01 UTC 2013

Oh, definitely. For the non-duty-type addresses, this'd be very useful.

FWIW: I'd really appreciate if you file a comment directly w/ the PRC
explaining your personal experience as a veteran, how this would have
benefited you in ways that APO/FPO does not cover, any suggestions you
have for improvement, etc.

Instructions @ http://s.ai/paf/#formal

- Sai

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:07 PM, ITechGeek <itg at itechgeek.com> wrote:
> That APO/FPO is duty station specific for overseas assignments.  And if
> they're not overseas, they have a normal US address (although if they live
> on post, the city is the installation they live on & some units you can
> replace a normal street address with unit information).
> But I mean something that can be uniform as they move every 13-36 months.
> Something I would have considered paying for when I was in the Military as I
> lived at Fort Knox, KY, Fort Gordon, GA, Mannheim (APO AE), Germany,
> Heidelberg (Different APO AE address), Germany, & Fort Belvoir, VA during my
> 4 yrs in the military.
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> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sai <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Robert Picone <rpicone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I would say that it might be worthwhile to forgo memorability and direct
>> > human writing completely and to register this as an entirely
>> > machine-readable system.
>> That would require senders to have machine writing. Most senders
>> don't, and it's not a constraint I'm wiling to adopt as mandatory.
>> Normal people should be able to hand write letters to PAF IDs the same
>> as they can to anyone else.
>> Plus, given the constraints and checksum, OCR of a PAF ID should be
>> pretty easy. The USPS back end already does this all the time for
>> normal addresses.
>> However, I see no problem with having a machine-readable
>> representation *in addition*, for senders that are capable of printing
>> one. In fact, that was part of the USPS' reply.
>> > -Has the potential for a further revenue-stream for USPS in printing
>> > labels
>> > certified to be compatible with their system.  This would minimize
>> > inconvenience a bit.
>> You shouldn't have to go to the USPS to obtain a special label to send
>> something to a PAF user. That would be bad for privacy and make it
>> unlikely to be used.
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:22 AM, ITechGeek <itg at itechgeek.com> wrote:
>> > Best use of this I can see is for people who move around such as
>> > military.
>> If they're active duty, they already have it in the form of APO/FPO
>> addressing — at least for the redirection aspect. Not for the privacy
>> aspect, of course. (Though they could point a PAF ID to an APO
>> address…)
>> - Sai

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