[Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to ban Adam by consensus

[Frantisek Apfelbeck]

I do respond to all what you rise in your email just the "2nd chance" concerning banning. It is understood long term  that non of the bans in Noisebridge is for "life time" it is for "certain inexact period" and after that lets see again. So second chances - yes, but in time.


That is at least how I feel about that after few years on the list and several involvements with the place.

Sincerely,

FAA

 
Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck


biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker


http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org


"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi



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 From: C. Honnet <cedric at honnet.eu>
To: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net> 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:57 AM
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to ban Adam by consensus
 


This is definitely sad...
...but is this "sex offender" reference really related to this particular problem ? (I didn't hear it at the meeting)


Related or not, I don't think that it should be publicly spread like that, this kind of denunciation is not fair.
Deserved condemnation or not, what happened to the right to a 2nd chance ? (what about privacy?)
Isn't Noisebridge about educating people ?
What about the doubts for a justice system that might fail ? (it's made by imperfect humans)

On the fight itself, I'm just wondering:
Even at school, do you get definitively banned when you fight ?


And about banning, I saw a guy calling the police to kick someone out during the meeting. Can't we do it more properly/excellently ?
Personally, I would definitely prefer to be punched.


On the other hand, I have only heard it and not witnessed it but "power" problems in an anarchist organisation is quite fucked up.

Just my humble point of view, I hope I didn't offend anyone.
Excellently yours, (or doing my best at least)
Cedric.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: bfb at riseup.net
To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:32:13 -0700
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to ban Adam by consensus


At the end of last night's meeting, a consensus proposal was brought to
ban Adam (Joseph Adam Moore) from Noisebridge. Adam was asked not to
return to Noisebridge until the Tuesday meeting. I don't feel this is
necessary. In cases of physical assult, a zero tolerance policy is in
order.

Adam was reported to have struck someone in the neck twice (see notes for
details)
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013_09_24#Proposals_for_next_week

Additionally, Joseph Adam Moore is a registered sex offender.
http://meganslaw.ca.gov

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