[Noisebridge-discuss] The legalities.

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Sat Apr 5 04:33:16 UTC 2014

At which point the people who use Noisebridge as a part time residence will
tell you they don't reside at Noisebridge, they just "sleep-hack" or "rest
their eyes".

Until you prevent people from sleeping at Noisebridge, they will continue
to live at Noisebridge. Until you have some negative consequence like
temporary or permanent bans, people will still sleep at Noisebridge. Until
you get rid of consensus, Kevin will prevent any negative consequences for
sleeping at Noisebridge.
On Apr 4, 2014 11:22 AM, "B Perez" <knighty04 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hear hear! +1
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Apr 3, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Norman Bradley <pryankster at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It has been mentioned several times that people living at NB violates
> our lease. It is actually a bit more complicated. After looking up how 2169
> Mission is zoned. I found that it is not zoned for residential. A place to
> start looking is at
> http://www.sf-planning.org/index.aspx?page=2771#findzoning . That is the
> San Francisco Planning Department and you can find a list of changes,
> permits, and even how much things cost. Our place "Appears eligible for
> listing in the California Register of Historical Resources."
> >
> > I am NOT a lawyer so this is just a guess after looking at the online
> records. I think that what they say is that floor 1 is zoned for food sales
> and floors 2 and 3 are light industrial. To allow sleeping / living in the
> space will at least require new permits from the, Planning Dept., Fire
> Dept., and Health Dept. as well as convincing the landlord.
> >
> > I'm not sure how long flogging this issue will continue, but, in my
> opinion it is not up for debate. It is spelled out in both zoning law and
> our lease. Our object should be how do we stop it not how much should we
> allow.
> >
> > You are entitled to your own opinion.
> > You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
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