[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: how Noisebridge could improve

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Fri Apr 11 14:58:10 UTC 2014


Our lack of security can also be chalked up to a failure of imagination.

Oh, I know we've imagined things, but largely they have been along the
lines of doing one or two individual things, which really could not
work on their own because of the limitedness of their scope and/or the
unfeasibility of the resources (e.g. humans) needed to perpetuate

We have never totally imagined the security of the space as a system.

Please don't take me to mean that security is hopeless.  I mean mostly
to say that at Noisebridge it is Very Hard.

Larger post coming soon.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: how Noisebridge could improve
To: Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>

So, I want to offer this perhaps sobering bit of truth about
Noisebridge: it has /never/ been a safe place to leave your stuff.

I have had things stolen from me at Noisebridge since NB epoch.  Yes,
that's unexcellent.  I'm not going to put a "but" on that fact.  It
just is.

In the future, maybe Noisebridge CAN become the sort of place you
envision, but -- to be very honest -- because Noisebridge was not
designed with that kind of security in mind, and has never had that
kind of security (except basically by accident), it does not seem very

You know what was a good solution?  The lockers that Al graciously
bought and installed for us.

If anyone needs one, they can use #22, which is mine, for free.  Email
me off-list for the code.

I think it's time to be up-front about what we do and don't expect
Noisebridge to be.

As a mother, for example, I do not expect Noisebridge to ever be a
safe place for my 3-year-old child.  I just don't.  I can bring my
child there on occasion, but it's not a playroom for little kids.


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> There was a message from Norman (aka pryankster) in the moderation
> queue (which I have now turned off).   The only thing I changed is the
> email subject.
> Original message:
> ---
> After reading openfly's ramble I thought I should finally post this.
> I don't get to Noisebridge much anymore and this is why. At the basic
> level I feel safer out on Mission than I feel at Noisebridge. There are
> a couple of reasons, 1. out on the street I can usually see danger
> approaching and avoid it and 2. at Noisebridge it just isn't safe.
> I started showing up at NB because it felt like a good place to interact
> with other folks that understand, Scientific, Mathematical, and
> Technical things. Where we could help each other out with knowledge
> sharing. With a few notable exceptions if I try to talk "Tech" folks I
> am now usually met with blank stares.
> I think that NB should be a place where if you leave your stuff to go to
> the restroom or down stairs for a snack it is there when you come back.
> If you forget something it is put in Lost & Found and remains there
> until you claim it. It should NOT be as it is where if I get up to give
> some new people a tour things are missing when I come back.
> You are entitled to your own opinion.
> You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
> Norman
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