[Noisebridge-discuss] Broken Stove

[Jeffrey Carl Faden]

By the way, this looks like it's possibly the work of davidfine.
https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-April/044036.html

Jeffrey


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't feel too bad, Ronald. No one should be depending on the stove, and
> if it's unsafe to use, it shouldn't be used. I think you did the right
> thing considering the risks. I just hope no one goes through the trouble to
> undo your work and bring it back online without making the proper repairs
> or replacements first.
>
> Jeffrey
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just got off the phone regarding the stove with a community member who
>> uses the stove.  I had originally decided to not do anything other than say
>> maybe we should just use half the stove.  Then I took a closer look and
>> said NOPE that isn't a good idea to leave this running.  I then disabled
>> it.  It was a much longer than necessary conversation.  This person also
>> knew of the issues at least on saturday and did nothing to resolve it (fix
>> it, disable it, call someone).   I think we need to spend some more time
>> with the community and teaching the community standards of Doocracy and be
>> excellent.  I was a little un excellent in handling this situation.  I need
>> to work on that.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also please be aware, if you do not agree with my assessment, you can
>>> doocratically hook up the stove again.  I would really hate to see someone
>>> get injured or anything else bad to happen in the space.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> The removal portion of it was not really related to this email.  It was
>>>> more informing that I doocratically disabled it, due to the hazard of using
>>>> it.  What we choose to do can be decided at Tuesday's meeting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ronald,
>>>>>
>>>>> Not doubting that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was simply stating what I understood from the inspector, as I spoke
>>>>> to him directly during his visit. I'm trying to minimize misspent effort on
>>>>> repairing something that will almost certainly have to be removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> -John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry that was snarky.  What I mean to say is that when a conductive
>>>>>> liquid hits wires (in this case a heating element with lots of power
>>>>>> running through it), it can cause a short.  Ditto with the control circuit.
>>>>>>  Even if somewhere was to not get hurt by electrocution or a fire being
>>>>>> started, it could damage the stove further.  Is that excellent to the users
>>>>>> of the stove?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you look at the picture?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:35 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ronald,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought the inspector said the cook-top had to go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would appear that the tempered glass on top of the stove has
>>>>>>>>> been broken.  The way in which it is broken means liquids can easily get to
>>>>>>>>> the heating element and the circuit board that controls the stove.  We will
>>>>>>>>> either need to replace the top glass with a new one, get a different stove
>>>>>>>>> or take it out altogether.  In the short term, I have disabled the circuit
>>>>>>>>> breaker, put up a few signs with my phone number and finally Sid made it so
>>>>>>>>> that the stove can't just be turned on by flipping the circuit breaker.
>>>>>>>>>  This is a pretty major safety hazard right now and we should deal with
>>>>>>>>> this along with the building inspector stuff post haste.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>> Systems Engineer
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>> Ronald Cotoni
>> Systems Engineer
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