[Noisebridge-discuss] Broken Stove

Tue Apr 22 00:53:24 UTC 2014

I don't know who broke the stove, but it sounds that it was an accident,
not a sledgehammer attack.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> TBQH it doesn't matter who did it just how we deal with it.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, davidfine <d at vidfine.com> wrote:
>
>>  Not me. I said I'd be assessing the state of the kitchen for one week
>> starting today, and that if it was a hazard on average, it would be fixed
>> with a sledge hammer. I was cautiously optimistic to hear that people were
>> working on cleaning it up. Also, a sledge hammer would have made a much
>> bigger hole.
>> --D
>>
>>
>> On 4/21/14, 7:48 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden wrote:
>>
>> By the way, this looks like it's possibly the work of davidfine.
>>
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-April/044036.html
>>
>>  Jeffrey
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Don't feel too bad, Ronald. No one should be depending on the stove, and
>>> if it's unsafe to use, it shouldn't be used. I think you did the right
>>> thing considering the risks. I just hope no one goes through the trouble to
>>> undo your work and bring it back online without making the proper repairs
>>> or replacements first.
>>>
>>>  Jeffrey
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just got off the phone regarding the stove with a community member who
>>>> uses the stove.  I had originally decided to not do anything other than say
>>>> maybe we should just use half the stove.  Then I took a closer look and
>>>> said NOPE that isn't a good idea to leave this running.  I then disabled
>>>> it.  It was a much longer than necessary conversation.  This person also
>>>> knew of the issues at least on saturday and did nothing to resolve it (fix
>>>> it, disable it, call someone).   I think we need to spend some more time
>>>> with the community and teaching the community standards of Doocracy and be
>>>> excellent.  I was a little un excellent in handling this situation.  I need
>>>> to work on that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Also please be aware, if you do not agree with my assessment, you can
>>>>> doocratically hook up the stove again.  I would really hate to see someone
>>>>> get injured or anything else bad to happen in the space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The removal portion of it was not really related to this email.  It
>>>>>> was more informing that I doocratically disabled it, due to the hazard of
>>>>>> using it.  What we choose to do can be decided at Tuesday's meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Ronald,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Not doubting that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I was simply stating what I understood from the inspector, as I
>>>>>>> spoke to him directly during his visit. I'm trying to minimize misspent
>>>>>>> effort on repairing something that will almost certainly have to be removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry that was snarky.  What I mean to say is that when a
>>>>>>>> conductive liquid hits wires (in this case a heating element with lots of
>>>>>>>> power running through it), it can cause a short.  Ditto with the control
>>>>>>>> circuit.  Even if somewhere was to not get hurt by electrocution or a fire
>>>>>>>> being started, it could damage the stove further.  Is that excellent to the
>>>>>>>> users of the stove?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you look at the picture?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:35 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Ronald,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I thought the inspector said the cook-top had to go.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  -John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ronald Cotoni <
>>>>>>>>>> setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  It would appear that the tempered glass on top of the stove
>>>>>>>>>>> has been broken.  The way in which it is broken means liquids can easily
>>>>>>>>>>> get to the heating element and the circuit board that controls the stove.
>>>>>>>>>>>  We will either need to replace the top glass with a new one, get a
>>>>>>>>>>> different stove or take it out altogether.  In the short term, I have
>>>>>>>>>>> disabled the circuit breaker, put up a few signs with my phone number and
>>>>>>>>>>> finally Sid made it so that the stove can't just be turned on by flipping
>>>>>>>>>>> the circuit breaker.  This is a pretty major safety hazard right now and we
>>>>>>>>>>> should deal with this along with the building inspector stuff post haste.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
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