[Noisebridge-discuss] Cooking in the space, update

Wed Apr 2 16:43:04 UTC 2014

I rather like all of Frantisek's contributions to the space, and his
continuing contributions to noisebridge discuss.  I for one am reading his
emails and hopes he continues to give his insight.

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Ceren Ercen <ceren at ercen.com> wrote:

> Seriously.
>
> Frantisek, you covertly squatted in the NB space, and got all
> apology-tastic when you got caught.
> You should have the sense and humility to recuse yourself from all topics
> that are addressing the serious problem of  "how do we stop people from
> trying to live in the space".  Even if it's your pet "I like to ferment
> things" workspace.
>
> Somehow, you don't have the clue or grace to back the fuck off. So I will
> suggest it for you. Back away from this thread, no one read your rambling
> email. If you're distressed, consider that it's actions like YOURS that
> made it impossible for Noisebridge to have a pleasantly luxurious kitchen.
> Great job.
>
> - Ceren
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Reminder: biotechnologist & kvasir and hacker Frantisek Algoldor
>> Apfelbeck from Kasiri, Jeju repeatedly slept in the off-limits south
>> stairwell at Noisebridge, so anything he has to say about proper use of
>> facilities should be taken with a grain of salt.
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi to all,
>>> Just few notes on the kitchen, I have run and helped to equip many
>>> around the world and on variety of hacker events especially in last few
>>> years under the Food Hacking Base project which the Tastebridge was a first
>>> step I would say. It is interesting to see so many hackerspaces going
>>> forward on biotech, food hacking and brewing with Noisebridge being one of
>>> the forerunners with amazing set up around 2010 and 2011 and now well ...
>>>
>>>  stove - crucial. If you do not have a stove you can not cook most of
>>> the meals and brewing is an issue for many types of beverages, also you
>>> will have really problem to sterilize - pressure cooker works fine if you
>>> have one. Kitchen without stove is close to not being a kitchen, biotech
>>> applications need sterilization most of the time and heat treatment of
>>> ingredients is often crucial (and microwave is not a cure for everything).
>>>
>>>  fridge - very important. To keep you perishable food ingredients,
>>> cultures and of course nice cold drinks it is more or less necessity, at
>>> least for reasonable food and beverage hacking. Kitchen without fridge is
>>> doable but quite an issue.
>>>
>>> preparation place - working bench if you like, crucial. Having some
>>> space to work on is crucial especially if you want to work fast and safe.
>>> Do not underestimate the height of the bench it hits your back if is too
>>> low or too high. This one is really important on hands on workshops.
>>>
>>> sinks - crucial. For keeping the place clean and the work flow
>>> continuous sinks and preferably running water are really a key. If you do
>>> not have it, you are in trouble. Dishwasher works too, but well sink is
>>> sink.
>>>
>>> storage - for dry ingredients especially. If you want to play around you
>>> need your ingredients and they need to stored properly. Stainless steel or
>>> glass well sealed work very well, plastic is a good cheap alternative.
>>> Insect and rats may be an issue if they get out of hand which was a case in
>>> the building many times so this one has to be kept in mind.
>>>
>>> The answer to how to keep the kitchen clean is both simple and
>>> complicated. The way which works for me and projects in which I'm involved
>>> is to get together people who enjoy playing with food, hacking, brewing,
>>> biotech and consuming&enjoying the products of their efforts and let them
>>> to organize the spot, sometimes poke them a bit if the things go out of
>>> hand. Better environment you have from the point of view of
>>> equipment/infrastructure and funds, more likely you are to form a nice and
>>> vibrant community around it and enjoy their achievements. Note as most of
>>> the things in community the social interactions are really important and
>>> preparing and sharing the meals and drinks brings together people really
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Best of luck with your kitchen plans, try to keep it nice and
>>> functional, it will pay off eventually. However even if you decide to
>>> destroy it, which I do not consider wise because it will not touch a core
>>> of the current problem, when the time comes, it will be build again, it
>>> will just require bit more dedicated people than if it is already standing
>>> and ready to be used.
>>>
>>> Sincerely from Kasiri, Jeju,
>>>
>>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>>
>>> PS Just a note, yes the Noisebridge community has a major social issues
>>> and to start to resolve them lots of time and energy from people who are
>>> socially developed and sensitive will be needed, the question for you now
>>> is how to get them involved and enjoy their work and being productive. 091
>>> labs in Galway, Ireland are running for a brewing classes for a while and
>>> it is generating lots of positive interest. Add some tech related project
>>> like the experimental incubator build up and you can start to move the
>>> things forward in a sound way - friendly, social and organized.
>>>
>>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>>>
>>>
>>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
>>>
>>
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